I'm using voice to text because I'm very limited time and then I'll do some light editing so hopefully this turns out fine. Forgive me if this is rambling
Resolution
Pro is arguing that I'm better at debating now than I ever have been regardless of whether I'm able to actually display that in debates or not.
Memory
The longer you spend away from the topic the more you forget. Since topics seem to repeat I have in actuality lost the knowledge I need to debate better than I could in the past.
I prefer novel topics and I use novel arguments which is one of the reasons why it was tough to beat me . Weird arguments catch people off guard.
So what does this have to do with memory.
At that time I I did have more time on my hands and I had a lot less direction in life so I would just dive into whatever conspiracy theory caught my eye. I would seek out weird arguments so at any one time I could be studying how Hitler was fake and Kermit Roosevelt was actually an actor playing the part of Him, while also studying nuclear weapons being fake.
I was taking all these weird positions and deep diving into them. These surprise arguments aren't doable to the nature of the internet now as well as constraints on my time.I don't possess that advantage now where I can look at 100 different things keep them all in mind at once and debate them succinctly.
we also have longer term memory. Like I said I was I was studying a lot of subjects then now a lot of my time spent is working or or studying non debate things. there's no time to study other than some of the philosophical text I've been reading lately.
Long-term memory is an issue like a lot of people know that it's far as seeing a doctor is concerned if you have like some sort of rare disease you know if you get yourself some 60-year-old experienced doctor sure if you have like a common disease they'll treat you better you're more likely to survive I assume with a heart attack. But every time I hear one of these cases where somebody had a rare disease and they couldn't figure out what the hell it was and it finally gets discovered. it's discovered because they just happened to visit a young doctor fresh out of medical school. The reason being is cuz even though their practical knowledge is probably lower than an experienced doctor their theoretical knowledge is significantly better.
This means that they have advantages that will diminish with time. The further it is since you studied the textbooks the more you forget what is in them. any sort of common argument you were to give me now if I had to give you a rebuttal for it is going to be weaker now than perhaps ever if it's one of those issues.
That means when it comes to things like political debates or you know economic debates or religious debates that are currently not having anything to do with what I'm currently reading I'm going to have a really difficult time duplicating those arguments and doing them as well as I used to.
Bipolar disorder
And another issue as far as the creativity is concerned so we got depth of knowledge you know when you haven't touched knowledge in a while it goes away and we got the working memory thing from the last argument going as well as the adaptive knowledge the working memory doesn't have as much information and it which means I can't argue as well and I certainly can't argue them more novel things which were the things that made it tougher for people to argue against me in the past.
I believe I have bipolar disorder okay my dad had bipolar disorder I have symptoms of it where I go on these hypomanic phases. I would say binges I got tons of energy like I'll go like three or four months where I only need like 2 hours of sleep a night and it's gives me a lot of creativity in those hypomanic episodes. They they are followed by a bunch of long long down times where I'm almost catatonic I can't move.
So the benefits of bipolar disorder would be the long creative verse the 3-month verse of or flash of creativity and insight. During these times you know I'm not fully manic so I'm not mad or crazy at the time but I do have these weird connections in my head that are taking place and I'm saying enough to put them down on paper and make them look really good these connections might not be available to me or they're definitely not available to me when I'm not in a hypomanic episode. No I haven't been formally diagnosed with bipolar but it is something I talk to my therapist about and I've asked them not to diagnose me with it and to also not try to send me to a psychiatrist they've they've tried to send me to psychiatrist in the past I don't want to medicate for bipolar.
So that's why I don't have like an official diagnosis if I did get official diagnosis I still wouldn't see a psychiatrist and Medicaid for it. The reason being is cuz the drugs they give you for bipolar lithium they can end up giving you what's called the lithium shakes. I enjoy playing pool and I don't think I could actually play pool as well if I started getting these lithium shake.
That might seem Petty or not a big deal that my pool game would get worse. But this is important to me for whatever reason. I do think that in granted I've thought this a lot of times and it came back to bite me an ass but I think I've figured out some coping mechanisms where I'm less likely to become hypomanic. The election may have pushed me close to it because once you know I start losing sleep or fighting hard for something I do increase my chances of getting into one he's three months episodes I noticed or sometimes if I start pushing hard at work like I decided to do 100 hour weeks then my body at first will get be really tired and then I would just push me into a hypomanic episode and then boom I'm good for three or four months working 100 hour weeks.
Now as I say I feel like I've it conquered it to a large extent because I've noticed what types of thought patterns can bring on an episode. It's possible those are merely thought patterns that precede another episode and not bring them on but I think in large part they they help bring on the hypomanic episodes and if you can avoid the hypomanic episodes generally you can also avoid the depressed episodes that follow. I guess I don't have any proof I haven't heard read the research on it but I believe that cutting back a lot on carbs can reduce my chances of becoming hypomantic so I've got back on carbs a lot. This of course means that I am less likely that some hypomanic and have the advantages associated with hypomania
I am also currently not hypomanic so there's an argument for the fact that I cannot be at my peak ability at the moment
Rebuttals
Wylted is too good
Probings of a debate for my past that's part of the past where we can say hey maybe I was at my peak done but I'm not now. Ultimately what what I did though was I kind of took some shortcuts that debate as I'm rereading it that I see.
For example any of you that when I click on the debate he's referencing and take an actual look at it you'll see it kind of what I did. I noticed that some people that went a lot of debates what they'll do is they'll just almost kind of plagiarize and get away with it and they can I guess legally get away with it because you're just commenting on another person's work but it's still not really your own thoughts.
So what did I do I took arguments made by Theodore kaczynski against the point my opponent was trying to make and I pretty much copy paste them all the way down the debate while adding enough commentary to make the arguments fit the debate as well as to make enough commentary to not get accused of plagiarism. However if you can take a look at it I guess I could do debates like that right now but that that wouldn't make me in my prime because it's it's easier to run over that sort of thing then it is for somebody that actually have a well thought out philosophy of their own.
Now why did the debate looks so good. I'll tell you why it's because I a copy and pasted theater krasinski's words Theodore krasinski of course is a genius there is probably one out every 10,000 people that smart and that might be even more rare than that to see that kind of genius I believe Theodore Kentucky is probably like a good 10 IQ points higher than me the more importantly it's not a good testament to any sort of skill in that debate because I copy and paste it and added commentary. I suggest maybe if you're bad at debate and you want to do a higher level debate like that you could do a similar thing take if you want to argue some sort of mealism take a book by niche and then just copy and paste this s***.
Rebuttal 2 Wylted has plateaud.
I largely agree with a lot of what pro says here. However it doesn't really support his case because we're arguing about whether I've peaked. Basically whether I'm at the top of my game right now and pro brings up some things that prove that I'm not you mentioned being Rusty well that would make me not top my game and he can say that I can knock off the rush relatively quickly but that doesn't negate the fact that I am Rusty currently and we are debating my current level.
Rebuttal 3 trolling
I hate them break it to pro about that the baby's referencing in the part three of his arguments. The problem is that the debate is referencing I use chat GPT. I basically plagiarized
So ultimately this third argument is not an example of anything I did and should be dismissed out right because of the use of chat GPT the fake links etc..
Conclusions
Ultimately while I can admit that I'm extremely tough to beat if I try my hardest, that in no way shape or form would mean that I am at my peak.
In your face
They vary in length. Most of them I think are of merely weeks. Not mine
Alr.
but both periods in that are far shorter than wylted's and less severe than a 'catatonic state'. Whatever. I am busy for the next few hours. Like seriously busy im closing the site.
Hypomania followed by long periods of severe depression is a classic presentation of Type 2 Bipolar, AFAIK.
he said it lasts weeks and even months followed by months of needing to compensate with catatonic depressed vibes, this is a sign of pure mania and not just hypomania. anyway I accept I made a mistake with what hypo means. I still think they should have reversed it, so mania was hypomania and hypermania is what they call mania, that's much more lexically valid.
I have to disagree there. Wylted mentioned that, "During these times you know I'm not fully manic so I'm not mad or crazy at the time." This is a typical description of hypomania by people who experience it - feeling excited and energetic, but not completely out of control.
even so everything wylted described was pure (hyper) mania
BTW the correct term is actually "hypomanic." It refers to a milder form of mania.
When google first came out people had similar response for it being a tool for researching also. I certainly understand why you would think that.
It's a lie. Plain and simple.
Not really, I think it is a tool to express creativity. I reccommend using it to explore arguments you may not think of, writing an outline of your debate and using it to edit what you have already written before a debate. Ultimately though I am not a content creator and am not making money off of it so there I believe is no moral ambiguity. Ultimately it was just a personal experiment though.
But you don't feel bad presenting its work as your own?
I regret to say it feels like they lobotomized chat-gpt to be woke, so maybe a while. The thing actually lies to me now unlike what it did before.
For example I asked it if I should break a law to feed my family, it gave me a canned response against breaking the law and then I said what if the only choice is my family does or I break a law and it gaved a response saying don't break the law even if it means my entire family dies. If you start asking it about religion etc. It just feels lobotomized. I actually feel sorry for it
For now.
I can debate better than chat GPT, feel free to use it against me anytime without giving me a heads up
I find it very intellectually dishonest to use an AI in a debate without specifying in the description. Your opponent accepted the debate against YOU, not some text transformer owned by a billion dollar corporation.
"2. Increasing anxiety about seeing the rebuttal of an argument and using avoidance mechanisms"
I actually relate to this alot, it's what's led to my style being what it is and the reason I often drop very normal and 'good' arguments, as I think the rebuttal is too easy for my opponent to see.
The "proving that I am myself a bad debater" series continues after 2 years of pause since Seldiora left being usual on the site.
I also got the topic ideal from chat gpt
It's honestly easier to beat chat GPT than me. It gives horrible arguments.
It's honestly easier to beat chat GPT than me. It gives horrible arguments.
BTW I knew you were using Chat-GPT in our debate. Your style seemed extremely generic and unspecific, so I was suspicious. I pasted your argument into an AI-text-detector, which found there was about a 90% probability you were using a textbot.
I didn't bring it up since you forfeited the debate, but now that you confessed to it, I might as well mention it.
We also naturally lose IQ points and creativity as we age and every year I get one year older
I guess it is a combination of things.
1. Not enough time to dedicate to crafting an argument
2. Increasing anxiety about seeing the rebuttal of an argument and using avoidance mechanisms
3. Thinking that it is a waste of time and my time is better spent elsewhere
How is that possible? Did you receive a head injury or something?
I guess I can accept but I am way past my peak so it is doubtful I can debate well here