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YouFound_Lxam

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#3937

Abortion is Murder.

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After 3 votes and with 21 points ahead, the winner is...

YouFound_Lxam

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Publication date: 12.06.2022 12:25PM
Last updated date: 03.17.2023 03:09PM
Type: Standard
Number of rounds: 5
Time for argument: Two weeks
Max argument characters: 30,000
Voting period: One month
Point system: Multiple criterions
Voting system: Open

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CitifiedDeer170

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Rules:
Abortion must be defined
Murder must be defined

No emotions should be brought into this debate. Only facts and logic.
Evidence must be provided.

Round 1

YouFound_Lxam

12.06.2022 04:53PM

Pro

Thank you CitifiedDeer170 for accepting, my debate.

Definitions:

Abortion

Merriam Webster defines abortion as:

: spontaneous expulsion of a human fetus during the first 12 weeks of gestation

: induced expulsion of a human fetus"

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/abortion

And as an extra definition, I am referring to all human abortions that takes place after conception.

Murder

Merriam Webster defines murder as:

: to kill (a human being) unlawfully and with premeditated malice

: to slaughter wantonly : SLAY

: the crime of unlawfully killing a person especially with malice aforethought

was convicted of murder

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/murder

Human

Merriam Webster defines human as:

"a bipedal primate mammal (Homo sapiens) : a person : MAN sense 1c

—usually plural

"a disease that affects both humans and animals incomprehensible to us humans" -William James"

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/human

Abortion

"An abortion is a procedure to end a pregnancy. It can be done two different ways:

Medication abortion, which uses medicines to end the pregnancy. It is sometimes called a "medical abortion" or "abortion with pills."
Procedural abortion, a procedure to remove the pregnancy from the uterus. It is sometimes called a "surgical abortion.""

https://medlineplus.gov/abortion.html

An abortion is the induced expulsion of a human fetus. If we remove the "fetus" part of the definition, than it would be defined as murder. Therefore we must prove that the fetus=human.

Well, what is a fetus? Merriam Webster defines fetus as:

"an unborn or unhatched vertebrate especially after attaining the basic structural plan of its kind

specifically : a developing human from usually two months after conception to birth"

So we have defined fetus as being a developing human. Therefore, abortion is the induced expulsion of a developing human.

Another definition using synonyms is: Abortion is the purposeful bringing about, of the removal of a developing human.

Now all I have to do is prove that a developing human, is a human.

What is development?

Development

Merriam Webster defines development as:

: the act, process, or result of developing

the development of new ideas

an interesting development in the case"

So if a human is the result of a developing human, then we can assume that a developing human is a human.

So all in all, using all of the synonyms:

Abortion is the purposeful bringing about, of the removal of a human.

and the definition of murder is:

Murder: "to kill (a human being) unlawfully and with premeditated malice"

Therefore, abortion is by definition murder.

That is my first argument.

Sources:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/abortion

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/murder

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/human

https://medlineplus.gov/abortion.html

CitifiedDeer170

12.20.2022 04:53PM

Con

Forfeited

Round 2

YouFound_Lxam

12.20.2022 07:35PM

Pro

Con forfeited.

Vote Pro.

CitifiedDeer170

01.03.2023 07:35PM

Con

Forfeited

Round 3

YouFound_Lxam

01.03.2023 08:09PM

Pro

Vote Pro.

CitifiedDeer170

01.17.2023 08:09PM

Con

Forfeited

Round 4

YouFound_Lxam

01.17.2023 09:08PM

Pro

Vote Pro.

CitifiedDeer170

01.31.2023 09:08PM

Con

Forfeited

Round 5

YouFound_Lxam

02.01.2023 03:09PM

Pro

Vote Pro.

CitifiedDeer170

02.15.2023 03:09PM

Con

#10

Forfeited

TWS1405_2

02.08.2023 03:11AM

#10

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@BigBuffMan

If they possess the requisite knowledge, sure. I could care less if they adequately demonstrate said knowledge. Neither a profession nor any one subject is relegated to one gender(sex).

YouFound_Lxam

02.08.2023 03:10AM

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@BigBuffMan

Birth control, yes
Mental health is different and not connected whatsoever.

BigBuffMan

02.08.2023 02:44AM

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@YouFound_Lxam

@TWS1405_2

Ok, then you must be fine with women debating men's issues like mental health or male birth control.
Am I correct?

TWS1405_2

02.01.2023 11:59PM

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@BigBuffMan

“ It is odd to debate this if you have no uterus, no?”

Not at all. Anyone and everyone can have an opinion.
The only differentiation is objective vs subjective.

TWS1405_2

02.01.2023 11:58PM

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@AustinL0926

There as no debate. So how can it be interesting if there was no observable “debate”!?!

TWS1405_2

02.01.2023 11:57PM

Maybe Con realized how inept you are at discussing this topic and quit. Especially after reading exchanges between you and I in past forum threads.
No one should vote for you. No one.
Why?
Con made not even a single reply. Therefore, there is nothing from which any voter can judge from. You do not get an award merely for initiating the debate that the other just realized would be a waste of their time.

YouFound_Lxam

12.20.2022 07:39PM

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@BigBuffMan

No.

BigBuffMan

12.17.2022 10:25AM

It is odd to debate this if you have no uterus, no?