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Topic
#3881
We should support abortion, the promotion of transgenderism and euthenasia
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The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.
Winner & statistics
After 4 votes and with 24 points ahead, the winner is...
RationalMadman
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- 4
- Time for argument
- Two weeks
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- One month
- Point system
- Multiple criterions
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Description
I don't think any conservative can really defend conservative ideology and I welcome a debate with somebody who believes that murdering babies and the elderly is wrong.
No alternative plans allowed you have to debate against my proposition.
Round 1
Forfeited
Who is 'we'? This is a major flaw in the resolution especially as the description implies that 'we' includes and yet simulatenously excludes conservative political believers/thinkers/voters. I don't understand what this debate's scope is in that sense.
Round 2
Forfeited
Abort abort, mission abort.
Omega male vs alpha male
Gamma male vs Sigma male
Transition and you are still basic, bitch.
Round 3
Forfeited
Try harder.
Round 4
This is now a 1 round debate. I would appreciate if con forfeits his final round so we can keep the debate fair and judges have one round each to weigh. If con tries to acquire an unfair advantage he should be punished with a conduct points being awarded to pro.
These sorts of things, euthenasia, transgenderism and abortion result in measures that reduce population growth, which is why Fabian socialists who control the world are pushing them on the western countries they control.
There are studies coming out which are showing the end of the world by 2040 or in some cases 2033.
MIT did a study a few years ago consisting of plugging some variables into an artificial intelligence that can predict the future and determined the world would end in 2040. Another recent study released shows the end of the world in approximately 10 years from now. This is most likely due to global warming.
Every human has a carbon footprint. The more fags we have, the less those people who become fags will reproduce. The genocide of unborn babies is a socially acceptable way to commit lots of murders that will prevent new people who have carbon footprint a from emerging. Euthanasia is a socially acceptable way to murder old people that will reduce the amount of people with a carbon footprint.
I would also add that wars in which millions die could quickly reduce the number of people creating carbon footprint a, so nation states such as Russia murder lots of Ukrainians, America murdering middle eastern people and China murdering the Taiwanese may be what is best for the planet.
The choice really is between these socially acceptable forms of murder and possibly kicking up action for example manufacturing Covid 19 to force people to take sterilization shots (obviously writing into law these Covid vaccinee makers can't be sued to avoid the legal ramifications of mass sterilization programs under that guise).
Well like I was trying to say, the choice is mass genocide or the end of the world in 10 years resulting in every life on the planet dying. Not just the 10 billion humans, but trillions of other life forms. a few million sacrificed to save billions is a worthy and honorable sacrifice and I applaud our current leaders for taking that approach.
These sorts of things, euthenasia, transgenderism and abortion result in measures that reduce population growth, which is why Fabian socialists who control the world are pushing them on the western countries they control.
There are studies coming out which are showing the end of the world by 2040 or in some cases 2033.
MIT did a study a few years ago consisting of plugging some variables into an artificial intelligence that can predict the future and determined the world would end in 2040. Another recent study released shows the end of the world in approximately 10 years from now. This is most likely due to global warming.
Every human has a carbon footprint. The more fags we have, the less those people who become fags will reproduce. The genocide of unborn babies is a socially acceptable way to commit lots of murders that will prevent new people who have carbon footprint a from emerging. Euthanasia is a socially acceptable way to murder old people that will reduce the amount of people with a carbon footprint.
I would also add that wars in which millions die could quickly reduce the number of people creating carbon footprint a, so nation states such as Russia murder lots of Ukrainians, America murdering middle eastern people and China murdering the Taiwanese may be what is best for the planet.
The choice really is between these socially acceptable forms of murder and possibly kicking up action for example manufacturing Covid 19 to force people to take sterilization shots (obviously writing into law these Covid vaccinee makers can't be sued to avoid the legal ramifications of mass sterilization programs under that guise).
Well like I was trying to say, the choice is mass genocide or the end of the world in 10 years resulting in every life on the planet dying. Not just the 10 billion humans, but trillions of other life forms. a few million sacrificed to save billions is a worthy and honorable sacrifice and I applaud our current leaders for taking that approach.
What kind of an an absolute puss-out is that? You are the one who was too afraid to be rebuked so you left your constructive until the last Round.
The description says this:
No alternative plans allowed you have to debate against my proposition.
That means I had to wait until you gave your proposition in order to debate against it. Do not dare be a slimy cuck-like coward in the face of me ever, Wylted. I will rip you to pieces as the audience cheers.
Voters should all punish Wylted for this cowardice via the conduct point, thank you.
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These sorts of things... result in measures that reduce population growth, which is why Fabian socialists who control the world are pushing them on the western countries they control.
This a baseless statement. For instance, while abortion appears to do this in the immediate generation will stifle the growth theoretically, the very same parents aborting while dirt-poor may instead of being drained by 1 offspring, end up pushing forward in their careers such that they can share the burden well and raise 4 high quality offspring instead of that 1 that perpetually drains them because they started parenting when dirt-poor.
In other words, abortion doesn't do this in the long-run in practise necessarily. Transgenderism doesn't do this either, Pro offered no source/reference showing that. As for euthanasia, I am confused if Pro is saying that the killing of people is a good thing there because it reduced the population or what.
There are studies coming out which are showing the end of the world by 2040 or in some cases 2033.
Which studies? Why would this support Pro's side?
MIT did a study a few years ago consisting of plugging some variables into an artificial intelligence that can predict the future and determined the world would end in 2040. Another recent study released shows the end of the world in approximately 10 years from now. This is most likely due to global warming.
What does this have to do with anything? the study was never provided by Pro.
But don’t worry, this scorching destruction of Earth is a long way off: about 7.59 billion years in the future, according to some calculations. Even if our planet somehow survives and remains in orbit around the bloated red giant Sun, Earth’s natural orbital decay means it would merge with the dead Sun’s remnant.
Eventually, anyway: this fate would occur in about 100 billion billion years. Not bad considering the Universe is only around 13 billion years old now.
I assert a different Earth duration.
Every human has a carbon footprint. The more f- we have, the less those people who become f- will reproduce.Lesbian and gay couples can choose from a variety of reproduction technologies specific to their particular needs and preferences, including the following:
- Sperm donation with intrauterine insemination (IUI) –sperm taken from a known or anonymous donor that has been tested for infectious disease ispassed through a thin catheter and placed directly into the uterusat the time of ovulation.
- In vitro fertilization (IVF) – lesbian couples with fertility issues may conceive through IVF. Even fertile lesbian couples sometimes opt to retrieve the eggs from one partner and later transfer the embryo to the other partner who then carries the pregnancy and gives birth. This is known as reciprocal or shared IVF
- Donor eggs – Gay couples (or lesbian couples who are unable to use their own eggs) can select an egg donor who will provide eggs to be fertilized in the lab with sperm from one or both partners. Egg donors may be known or anonymous and should be carefully chosen with guidance from a fertility specialist. Following fertilization, the resulting embryos are transferred to the womb of a gestational carrier through IVF, thus ending the role of the egg donor
- Gestational carrier –a woman who is selected by a couple to carry the pregnancy to term and give birth. Gestational carriers use the eggs of a donor rather than their own
The genocide of unborn babies is a socially acceptable way to commit lots of murders that will prevent new people who have carbon footprint a from emerging. Euthanasia is a socially acceptable way to murder old people that will reduce the amount of people with a carbon footprint.
That is just not quite true. Euthanasia is typically done when people have already left a carbon footprint and are well into their lifespan. Abortions can actually help long-term population growth as explained earlier.
The choice is mass genocide or the end of the world in 10 years resulting in every life on the planet dying. Not just the 10 billion humans, but trillions of other life forms. a few million sacrificed to save billions is a worthy and honorable sacrifice and I applaud our current leaders for taking that approach.
Pro has not explained why the world ending in 10 years is a bad thing if genocide is a good thing. Pro has failed to explain who 'we' are to support this.
Declare yourself the winner Wylted, you're the president now.
To be clear, since I commented before the debate took place that I agreed with Con's claim supporting abortion, transgender, and euthanasia, I support them on the grounds of bodily autonomy, not population control.
As per the voting policy:
"Any unexcused forfeited round merits an automatic conduct loss, but arguments must still be voted on or justified as a tie. Repeated forfeitures waives the need to consider arguments (you still may, but by the choice of one side to miss at least 40% of the debate, the requirement ceases. And yes, this does apply to Choose Winner, which otherwise would not allow conduct to be the sole determinant)."
You literally forfeited 75% of the debate. So I don't have to consider arguments if I don't want to. This is why I put "technical" in front of full forfeiture. It wasn't a complete full forfeiture, but it technically could be considered one.
I made an argument in the last round. Not a full forfeitures. Maybe partial
Debate is over, skip to last Round.
Abortions don’t terminate “babies,” they terminate zygotes, blastocysts, embryos, unviable fetuses, and on some occasions even a viable fetus to save the woman or in rare cases, a twin (and the mother).
No one believes murdering the elderly is acceptable.
It’s also a false equivalency fallacy to compare an abortion to the murder of the elderly.
Your view on this is psychotic and crazy.
I am too scared to ask if he used Google translate or if he already is better at Esperanto than me.
Fuck I still have time to post. Didn't expect to come back to that. Nice and I have Thanksgiving off of work
tbh, I would have accepted this one. The harder position is to defend abortion and transgenderism and euthanasia.
Silentu soyboy, mi instruu vin kiel fari konservativan propagandon.
Don't try to use misspelling against me. English is not my first language. I am a southerner.
Thank God a conservative willing to defend their stupid ideology of thinking murder of babies and the elderly is wrong or their stupid ideology that it is wrong to cut off a child's penis
I agree on all counts except your spelling of euthanasia.