THBT: Theism is more likely than atheism.
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Wikipedia advises: Occam's razor, Ockham's razor, or Ocham's razor (Latin: novacula Occami), also known as the principle of parsimony or the law of parsimony (Latin: lex parsimoniae), is the problem-solving principle that "entities should not be multiplied beyond necessity".[1][2] It is generally understood in the sense that with competing theories or explanations, the simpler one, for example a model with fewer parameters, is to be preferred.
Wikipedia advises:
"When two parties are in a discussion and one makes a claim that the other disputes, the one who makes the claim typically has a burden of proof to justify or substantiate that claim especially when it challenges a perceived status quo. This is also stated in Hitchens's razor, which declares that "what may be asserted without evidence, may be dismissed without evidence." Carl Sagan proposed a related criterion – "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" – which is known as the Sagan standard."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy)
Following the aforementioned burdens and framework for the debate, The burden of proof will largely be on me to prove that theism is a more likely metaphysical reality than atheist conceptions. Within this debate, God will be described as the intelligent creator of all of existence. If I am capable of proving just one theist conception of God as more likely than atheism, I ought to have won the debate. Con agrees to these conditions before accepting the debate.
Rules:
1. No unnecessary/intentional forfeits
2. Be decent
- Preface
- A1. multiplication of thing and properties of things
- A1.2 Distinction between things and properties of things
- A2. Argument through solipsistic duality
- Crystallization
- Atheism appears not to be just less likely than pantheism, but it appears to be infinitely less likely, and as such, reduced to absurdity due to its infinite entities.
- Pantheism is more likely in a solipsist worldview, a physicalist worldview, and an idealist worldview than atheism.
Atheism is predicated on this separation of things
using the atheists' own epistemology against them?
The atheist possesses infinite things with infinite properties (if all atoms, etc. in the universe are counted)
1. Atheism possesses infinite things with infinite properties2. Pantheism possesses one thing with infinite properties.
atheism has not been proven just less likely than pantheism, but has been proven to be logically absurd
The atheist cannot also agree with me and say that all is one
If we assume nothing exists, all we can be assured of is our own minds' existence
1. The mind and body are two separate substances, and have no shared properties2. two substances need one shared property to interact3. the mind and body cannot interact
everything is one's own consciousness. As such, you are God the creator within a solipsistic worldview. You create the universe through your own consciousnes
Ha Ha!!!
Might as well try and prove pink unicorns exist too.
Is there a way for a mod to forfeit the round since Ehyeh is banned?
Thank you and good luck!