"This debate is about ALM, not BLM. This claim does not disprove me as CON knows that BLM and ALM aren't mutually exclusive and should not be treated as so. "
Is it not true that this whole subject derived from the "black lives matter" expression?
What's the idea of pointing out that every life is essential other than in lieu of saying what?
This is what you stated in the first round:
"Black or White, have stated that ALM is, indeed true, and the reason they are against this statement is that ALM is conditionally wrong, specifically used as a response to BLM(Black Lives Matter). "
So of course this exchange is related to "black" persons lives mattering. Your position is that there is nothing wrong at its basic level saying every life matters.
But is that so within a specific point of discussion? Think about it.
"Again, CON agrees that BLM and ALM agree with each other. In fact, BLM is advocating for equality just as is ALM. "
Sure, so that means you could use them interchangeably. If you can do that, there's no place in debating this. Obviously you're trying to make a point that there's conflict somewhere if you came up with a topic such as this, which is about something being questionably wrong. So now you wish to argue over it presumably because you feel there are those that do have pushback behind the context of these phrases.
"CON concedes that ALM is only conditionally wrong instead of fundamentally wrong. Unless CON proves that ALM is an oxymoron or it is something that does not make sense whatsoever, PRO wins the day. ''
If you mean by "conditionally" in a certain context, yes , that's what I stated. In a context where the discussion is centered on a particular group, it would not be right, it would be inaccurate, irrelevant, inappropriate to focus on all others in society outside of where the pandemic is.
So it's incorrect to push the point about all lives mattering in an irrelevant discussion at it's basic level. Why? Well all lives mattering never ceases to be at it's basic level. It's not meant to be in any other way. So when anyone uses the phrase, it's interpreted as a fact in and of itself marking it's foundation. It's set's the foundation for the essence of life, period. It's encompassing to everyone as you say, it's a truism. A trite but logical, needless point so why is it pointed out? Particularly in a discussion that's about a specific community, what gives?
Here's a straightforward analogy involving religious doctrine. If I'm a preacher telling someone if they don't live right, they're going to hell, is it incorrect , needless , irrelevant for that someone to respond:" if we all don't live right, we're all going"?
Mind you, the person being preached to is not living right and their response is an obvious fact based on the doctrine. The punishment and hell fire doctrine is one of the fundamental teachings you'll learn in religion. It's true, it's not wrong except the concern is on that one person. I'm not preaching to a multitude. So the response from the unrighteous person should not be made as it will gloss over their unique situation.
Depending on what you mean by "fundamental", you may mean fundamental discussion. But once more, where is the debate in that? I don't think you mean that word in that way.
Ok agree to disagree.
Look at R1 and I have defined the terms. Conditionally wrong is not fundamentally wrong.
Yes conditionally and fundamentally wrong. Unless you can explain what's meant by "conditional", what is the condition? Too vague and not clear.
I quit the site and gave you an advantage, but you are still proving that ALM is conditionally wrong? I thought I had given you the definition.
I challenge you to justify this debate's existence. In what way is it valuable?
Exactly
This debate misses the point entirely. Nobody has a bone to pick with "All Lives Matter" because it is a factually incorrect statement. They have a bone to pick with it because it is a counter-phrase to the Black Lives Matter movement, which aims to address systemic injustices. In other words, within the context it is used, "All Lives Matter" is a phrase intended to shut down attempts to fix social ills.