Instigator / Pro

Boris_Sh

1488

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Topic

#2067

The more homework your students have, the better.

Status

Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics

Better arguments

Better sources

Better legibility

Better conduct

After 3 votes and with 19 points ahead, the winner is...

RationalMadman

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Education

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Publication date: 05.31.2020 02:04PM
Last updated date: 06.12.2020 03:42AM
Type: Standard
Number of rounds: 2
Time for argument: Two days
Max argument characters: 10,000
Voting period: One week
Point system: Multiple criterions
Voting system: Open

Contender / Con

RationalMadman

1702

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574

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Round 1

Boris_Sh

06.02.2020 02:05PM

Pro

Forfeited

RationalMadman

06.03.2020 02:59AM

Con

The more homework your students have, the worse the quality of your actual teaching is during classtime.

The reason you need to give them so much homework is to compensate for the fact that you can't teach them everything that they need to know in a classtime, especially to individually assess them in ways that classwork doesn't allow. This is fine in moderation and is a healthy part of the education system.

The problem is that when we start getting the idea that more homework is better, we forget two vital things:

Not all your students are geniuses or grade-grabbers for that particular subject. You can't forcefeed them the grades and stuff, accept that not everyone is an A-grade high flier.
Even if they are all A-grade high fliers and you're in one of those workaholic high-end schools, you as a teacher need to respect that it's down to the student and their work ethic to do what they need to do. You don't know how rough their home life is or how 'burst-study' their brains and schedule are. Some poeple genuinely are good at cramming and learn better that way, others need the steadiness. For those that need the steadiness, it's up to them to set themselves the extra homework and targets not for you to officially make everyone do more homework just to feel you have accomplished more.

A student needs to learn to teach themselves because once you're in university, that's how it starts to become. In the working world you 90% teach yourself, only 10% is even remotely to do with others teaching you and at least 50% of that 10% (so at least 5% overall) is from things that aren't the job but rather you watching others around you work and having interactions thereabouts.

Round 2

Boris_Sh

06.05.2020 02:59AM

Pro

Forfeited

RationalMadman

06.05.2020 03:42AM

Con

You should have done your homework.

RationalMadman

06.04.2020 11:57PM

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@User_2006

If you want to have an 'actual discussion' you can make a forum thread or alternatively can make a debate yourself as the Con to this topic or Pro to the opposite.

User_2006

06.03.2020 08:47PM

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@RationalMadman

I think debaters like Boris_Sh who forfeits the first round then go are just rankings boosters. Seriously, they exist so much. As much as it is convenient for point farming, it discourages actual discussion.

skittlez09

06.03.2020 03:48AM

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@User_2006

in all seriousness man ive just been going on a long self improvement journey for awhile now

still ongoing to this day

skittlez09

06.03.2020 03:46AM

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@User_2006

" You are Pinkfreud? You don't sound like him at all. "

user_2006 said i dont sound like pinkfreud when i am pinkfreud, that's poor conduct!

User_2006

06.03.2020 01:41AM

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@skittlez09

I mean, RM only needed one point to win this debate. I don't even know how Pro stand a chance.

User_2006

06.03.2020 01:41AM

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@skittlez09

You are Pinkfreud? You don't sound like him at all.

skittlez09

06.02.2020 03:51PM

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@RationalMadman

destroy this fool

User_2006

05.31.2020 02:59PM

As a Student, I agree with Con. Too much homework will eventually lead to sadness and depression because pressure, and that's not good.

fauxlaw

06.05.2020 07:58PM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

Argument: Con offered the only argument, and it is appreciated all the more by cunning use of germane cynicism in the 2nd round.

Sourcing: How does one apply negative points. Although Con offered the only argument, there was no sourcing, when, at least, the last paragraph of Con's round 1 begged for a source for the stated percentages of the factors noted. Pro offered no argument at all, meaning no sourcing. I'm not sure which is the more grievous approach.

S&G: To Con

Conduct: To Con. Full forfeit by Pro.

User_2006

06.05.2020 01:41PM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

Con is the only one who provided any argument.

Trent0405

06.05.2020 04:13AM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

Full Forfeit.