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Topic
#2019
MICRO DEBATE The US should cease the use of enhanced interrogation techniques
Status
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The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.
Winner & statistics
After 10 votes and with 10 points ahead, the winner is...
blamonkey
Parameters
- Publication date
- Last updated date
- Type
- Standard
- Number of rounds
- 3
- Time for argument
- Three days
- Max argument characters
- 2,500
- Voting period
- One month
- Point system
- Winner selection
- Voting system
- Open
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Description
I'm going to diverge a little from the rues CaptainSceptic outlined in the forums to be a bit more lenient but still restrictive.
Max characters: 2.5k
Max sources: 4 per round
We default to Merriam Webster for definitions
3 days for arguments
What counts as enhanced?
Note: The ban was enacted after they chose to end the final round in another forfeiture.
I've watched the report
Sorry, I was 5 minutes away from posting my arguments and I can't seem to access my files. I will post tomorrow. I think they can be recovered. If not atleast is was only like 2500 characters to rewrite
enhance interrogation not torture. For the purposes of this debate anyway
It can refer to a bunch of different torture methods. I'm pretty sure that the CIA codified a list of acceptable EIT methods.
Just to be clear, when you say enhanced torture, you arent referring to waterboarding?
thank you
Oops. Sorry, forgot to include that. The following pages are in order of what I cite from the report:
xi (I forgot to put a (1) by the 20 alleged plots foiled by EIT, sorry about that)
xxi (this page was about the people in detainment who were illegally detained)
bro that is a 788 page document lol, if you can narrow it down a bit that would be great. If not I obviously will take your word on the statement.
the other citations are fine, it is just some of the .gov sites
Here.
https://docdro.id/pIfwfoj
Also, tell me if you can access the other sources. P.S. I checked. We still do torture people. If we didn't that would have been a short debate. ;-)
Yes, I appreciate with you working with me here.
Can I send it as a pdf?
My computer cannot acces citation number one for security purposes. Is there any other way for me to access the document. The United states government apparently frowns on tor users accessing their stuff.
We can assume enhanced interrogation is occurring. I am more interested in proving it is useful and ethical than disproving it occurs .
People at Gitmo, probably some black sites too. I could get more specific, but I'll save it for the debate.
To be clear, I wasn't trying to say "enhanced interrogation" isn't torture. It obviously is torture.
But the use of the word "cease" in the title suggests we're still torturing people. Who are we torturing?
Yeah, I meant comments
Enhanced interrogation techniques performed by the CIA is essentially torture. I'll change it to be more specific.
Who is the US torturing? I thought the 'enhanced interrogation' of terrorists had been put to a stop. As far as I can tell, all that leaves is arguing that the US prison system tortures people via solitary confinement or other 'disciplinarian' methods.
Awesome!
Embed them is easiest for judges think. Nice catch Virtuoso. All the little bugs we need to sort out
you mean the comments?
Sure. You could just place sources in the description too.
Can we embed sources as hyperlinks to save space or do we have to put them in the text?
I forgot to change the point system to choose winner. One sec.
Is the point system what you wanted?
I am very curious about this and how the micro debate works especially for something like torture.
Good Luck to both participants.