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#1893
At the rate we are going, it won't be long before the death toll tops our loss in the Vietnam War
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After 4 votes and with 20 points ahead, the winner is...
User_2006
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Attaboy Donald!
Round 1
Forfeited
Define "long". I don't need to say anything more because my opponent has forfeited.
Round 2
Today 22,000 dead. The death toll for US serviceman during the Vietnam War was 58,000.
We will surpass that number in less than 1 month.
Coronavirus rate 2:
Since your “short” is 1 month, I will try my best to argue that it will be more than 1 month to reach Vietnam War deaths.
How many people in the Vietnam war died? About 1,353,000.[1] How many people died of coronavirus now? About 1/10 of the Vietnam war now.
Now our rate is going about 6500 a day.[2] Let’s do the math. Next month is 31 days, and a day is 6500. “At this rate” means linear, and logarithmically speaking, it is pretty flat considering we had around the same number of deaths per day in the last few weeks. So we are going pretty linearly. Let’s say just 6,500 a day. Then 6500x31 equals 201500, or 201,500. Today it is about 116,000 deaths, plus that 201,500 it is 318,000, and 318,000 is less than 1,353,000 if you know quick maths.
Calculating to this rate, it will take more than 6 months for the coronavirus toll to reach Vietnam War deaths considering (1,353,000-116,000) / 201,500 roughly equals 6.14,[3] which is more than 6. Since 6.14>1, thus in conclusion Coronavirus deaths will not reach Vietnam War deaths until 6 months later, where this is if we GO OUT LIKE IF THERE IS NO THREAT, and in projection, Coronavirus will be gone in about July, so there is a chance Coronavirus will be gone before death reaches the Vietnam War deaths, and if we keep the same rate, it will take us 6 months, end of the story.
Sources:
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War_casualties
[2] https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
[3] https://calculator.com/standard-tape/
Since your “short” is 1 month, I will try my best to argue that it will be more than 1 month to reach Vietnam War deaths.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War_casualties
[2] https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
[3] https://calculator.com/standard-tape/
Just a comment for voting, even if the rate is about 20,000 per day, it is 620,000 a month, and today it is 160,000, which is more than when this debate takes place. 620,000+160,000<1,353,000. Take that into consideration.
Knowing I am losing 4 other debates. Maybe this debate will even bring my ranking to 1490 or even 1500.
"I am highly suspicious that you are Hezikiah from DDO."
I am highly suspicious that you are an infantile who doesn't belong on this website!"
Wow, even the same behaviors. Guess you are either accepting it or proving me false. No offensive slurs. I hate Trump.
I am highly suspicious that you are Hezikiah from DDO."
I am highly suspicious that you are an infantile who doesn't belong on this website!
I am highly suspicious that you are Hezikiah from DDO. Say, ARE YOU?
" Coronavirus rate 2:
Since your “short” is 1 month, I will try my best to argue that it will be more than 1 month to reach Vietnam War deaths.
How many people in the Vietnam war died? About 1,353,000"
My childish friend...
Perhaps you can't read English. 58,000 US servicemen died in the Vietnam war.
Ok, User_2006...
Time for you to get milk and cookies from your mama.
By the way, there is a reason I am barred from starting a new debate....
this site is run by right wing conspiracy theorists who are afraid of the truth...
DONALD TRUMP IS A TOTAL DISASTER WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEMISE OF OUT COUNTRY!
Today over 23,000 dead.
It wont take long before the death toll exceeds 58,000
ATTABOY DONALD!
The far right is far more mentally unstable then the far left
But believe whatever makes you happy.
Maybe that allows you to sleep at night in spite of the mental instability of the president.
How so? It's true, isn't it? The Left both called for probes into his supposedly deteriorating mental health and claimed he was going to draw us into a war with Iran.
There've been a few close scrapes but so far WW3 hasn't happened. He's got less than a year left in his (first) term. Is Trump gonna do it or not?
"Considering the Left's accused him of having dementia or Alzheimer's since Day 1 of his presidency, if he was going to do this it would've already happened sometime in the past 3 years"
Whatever makes you happy!
Of course, your comment is pure nonsense!
"There is a possibility Trump will start a war to draw attention away from his mental breakdown."
Considering the Left's accused him of having dementia or Alzheimer's since Day 1 of his presidency, if he was going to do this it would've already happened sometime in the past 3 years, no?
There is a possibility Trump will start a war to draw attention away from his mental breakdown.
There should be something in the Constitution to remove a president who has gone totally out of his mind!
."And I am not a child. I am a teenager."
Then stop acting like a child!
"Vietnam War was about 50,000-60,000 U.S. combat fatalities and that's not at all unfeasible."
If he said THE US, He wins, but He put no country so I simply assumed the human race.
Vietnam War was about 50,000-60,000 U.S. combat fatalities and that's not at all unfeasible.
To put things in perspective, about 2.8 million Americans are said to die from all causes every year. This is actually a low figure because it fails to count roughly 600,000 who die from abortion every year, more than half a million deaths which are almost completely ignored. COVID-19 deaths are unfortunate, of course. But assuming it remains below 100,000 total (as new estimates suggest it probably will) then it'll only constitute a marginal increase in the overall death rate in the U.S.
I felt like I literally can't lose unless someone was voting as a purposeful joke.
"User_2006 can be forgiven He is only a child."
Nah I hate trump, but trump is far away from a retard consider otherwise he can still be a president. A retard the IQ of 50 will not be able to be president for a day without knocking the Mcdonalds stand over the white house. And I am not a child. I am a teenager. I have logic and it can probably win against you consider you forfeit 80% of the time, you aren't even trying.
Today 22,000 dead. The death toll for US servicemen during the Vietnam War was 58,000.
We will surpass that number in less than 1 month.
1. The "toll" is cumulative.
2. Who do you refer to as "our"? You didn't put a home nation so I assumed that it is the world, and it is the only way this debate is rational to consider otherwise, we are already past that.
User_2006 can be forgiven He is only a child.
Listen Ramdatt, if you respond to this debate with any degree of evidence, you win. But even then, If you forfeit or enforce anti-trump slurs, then I win. Got it?
Yeah Ramdatt, This is the comment section. You have yet to respond to the actual debate. This is just like Trump enforcing every single person to eat Mcdonalds and only Mcdonalds because that is as not-important as you commenting but not actually debating.
Also, I suggest getting the "Expert Commentator" medals removed because there will always be some guy who comments "yeet" 5,000 times, and they can do it with automated bots only, and they will abuse it to do everything because this is the only thing they won't get banned with.
By the way, Donald Trump has always been a pathetic excuse for a human being. Unfortunately, now we all must suffer.
Less than 1 month
define "long".