Instigator / Con
49
1596
rating
9
debates
88.89%
won
Topic
#1705
Discipulus_Didicit loves, or at some point loved, open borders.
Status
Finished
The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.
Winner & statistics
After 7 votes and with 22 points ahead, the winner is...
Discipulus_Didicit
Parameters
- Publication date
- Last updated date
- Type
- Standard
- Number of rounds
- 3
- Time for argument
- Three days
- Max argument characters
- 2,000
- Voting period
- One week
- Point system
- Multiple criterions
- Voting system
- Open
Contender / Pro
27
1498
rating
4
debates
37.5%
won
Description
Greyparrot has made the claim that DD is in favor of open borders. BoP is on pro. If pro can find a single post of DD saying anything remotely in favor of open borders on DART or DDO, no matter how long ago it was made, then pros BoP is fulfilled. If pro is unable to do this then he is simply creating fake news about DD for no particular reason by making this accusation and the mature thing for pro to do would be to admit that this accusation was simply pulled out of his ass.
Round 1
BoP is on pro, let's see what they got.
Since I don't speak Spanish, there is nothing to prove.
Round 2
BoP remains on pro. Extend.
I still don't speak Spanish. There is no claim to prove.
Round 3
There is no claim to prove
Pros attempted Kritik here is that he has never made any implication aligning with the resolution before the debate began and therefore the debate is invalid. Rather than taking the easy route and linking to the post where he made said implication I will instead point out to the voters that this kritik is completely irrelevant to the debate even if what GP was saying was true.
This debate is about whether or not DD loves open borders. The moment GP accepted the debate as pro he agreed to argue in favor of the resolution. Even if pro could prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he did not in fact believe this position to be valid it could still be assumed that pro had taken a 'devils advocate' position, a common practice which any voters here will surely be familiar with. If pro did not wish to take such a position he needed only to not accept the debate.
I am not sure what pros lack of understanding of Spanish has to do with anything. This debate is being conducted in English.
Con is correct. By accepting the debate, I must accept the claim as existing, even if it does not exist.
What you said was also incorrect. Ragnar's vote hits the nail on the head as to why.
Right, that is what you said the first time. I said the opposite.
I'm aware. I'm not saying it's a bad k. I'm saying it's just straight up not a k.
I never claimed it was a good attempt at a Kritik...
"Pros attempted Kritik..."
No. There was no k here. Not even close.