Instigator / Pro

DynamicSquid

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Topic

#1641

Nurture is the dominant factor over Nature

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Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics

Better arguments

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Better legibility

Better conduct

After 7 votes and with 42 points ahead, the winner is...

DynamicSquid

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Publication date: 11.12.2019 02:42AM
Last updated date: 11.27.2019 02:12AM
Type: Standard
Number of rounds: 3
Time for argument: Two days
Max argument characters: 1,000
Voting period: One week
Point system: Multiple criterions
Voting system: Open

Contender / Con

K_Michael

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Description

Nature - How you were born
Nurture - How you were raised

Are our physical and mental selves like this because we were born like this, or because we were raised like this?

Round 1

DynamicSquid

11.13.2019 02:00AM

Pro

Hello Michael and thanks for accepting this debate. Let's get started...

A) OUTLINE

Round 1 - First argument

Round 2 - Second argument, and clash

Round 3 - Summarization, and clash

Arguments

1. What is Nature? - What are the limits of how nature affects us?

What exactly is nature?
Why it can't be the deciding factor

2. Real World Examples - How does our nurture affect us?

What exactly is nurture?
How does our environment affect us?

B) ARGUMENTS

What is Nature? - What are the limits of how nature affects us?

I. What exactly is Nature?

According to Oxford, the definition of nature is:

the basic or inherent features of something

Or in this case, how you we born. Were you born a firefighter? Were you born a bully?

(An average person's physical and personality traits)

II. Why it can't be the deciding factor

When babies are born, they don't know what a firefighter is. They can't. They don't know anything about this world, until they are taught. An example of this would be your first language.

Thank you.

K_Michael

11.15.2019 01:37AM

Con

In the argument of nature vs. nurture, nature is what we're born with, (i.e., genetics).

Nurture is the upbringing and environment we're raised in.

Pro used ambiguous pronouns such as "we," "us," and "ourselves" to describe the subjects of the nature vs. nurture debate. Pro didn't specify that the nature vs. nurture argument extended only to humans or that it was limited strictly to behavior, though that is the traditional bound of the debate.

Humans share 98.8% of DNA with chimps and bonobos. [1]

Humans share 70% of DNA with zebrafish. [2]

Humans share 60% of DNA with fruit flies. [3]

However, humans look very different from bonobos, vastly different from zebrafish, and fruit flies might as well have evolved on a different planet for all of the physical similarity they bear to homo sapiens.

[1]

[2]

[3]

Round 2

DynamicSquid

11.16.2019 12:17AM

Pro

Hello and let's get right into this...

A) CLASH

extended only to humans or that it was limited strictly to behavior

Talking about humans here. And reasonable "physical and personality traits". Like your job, hobbies, or weight. And yes, you're correct, I'm using the traditional bound of this debate.

humans look very different from bonobos, vastly different from zebrafish

Humans only please.

Also keep in mind that my opponents didn't respond to any of my arguments in my last speech.

B) ARGUMENTS

Real World Examples - How does our nurture affect us?

I. What exactly is Nurture?

According to Oxford, nurture is:

the process of caring for [...] the growth or development of someone ...

Basically referring to parents, friends, and alike.

II. How does our environment affect us?

In tons of ways. Bible:

He that walketh with wise men shall be wise: but a companion of fools shall be destroyed

Chaplain Ronnie Melancon:

Show me your friends and I'll show you your future

This is a proven fact.

Thank you.

K_Michael

11.18.2019 12:17AM

Con

Forfeited

Round 3

DynamicSquid

11.18.2019 02:12AM

Pro

In the debate, we have covered what nature is, and how it can't be the deciding factor. We have also talked about what nurture is, and how it is the deciding factor.

Keep in mind that my opponent has not yet refuted any of my claims.

My opponent has not provided a response in the last round, so I will leave it at that.

Thank you.

K_Michael

11.20.2019 02:12AM

Con

Forfeited

K_Michael

11.25.2019 07:17AM

#13

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@DynamicSquid

I'd like to apologize for the forfeited rounds. My school blocks this site, and my job has no wifi at all. If we debate again in the future, I would be better able to participate if the debating period is 3 or more days.

oromagi

11.24.2019 08:17PM

#12

Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments ✔ ✗ ✗ 3 points
Better sources ✔ ✗ ✗ 2 points
Better spelling and grammar ✔ ✗ ✗ 1 point
Better conduct ✔ ✗ ✗ 1 point
Reason: FF

Barney

11.24.2019 10:20AM

#11

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@Vader

@K_Michael

@DynamicSquid

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>Reported Vote: SupaDudz // Mod action: Removed
>Points Awarded: 0:4; 4 points to Con.
>Reason for Decision: See below
>Reason for Mod Action:
Full Forfeitures, explicit concessions, competitions, truisms, and comedy (even if facetious) are not eligible for moderation (barring certain exceptions)
This is one of those exceptions... Generally this is enacted for simple mistakes (such as a concession or FF, but the voter mistakingly voted for the wrong side)
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Barney

11.24.2019 10:17AM

#10

SupaDudz
2 days ago
Criterion Pro Tie Con Points
Better arguments ✗ ✗ ✔ 3 points
Better sources ✗ ✔ ✗ 2 points
Better spelling and grammar ✗ ✔ ✗ 1 point
Better conduct ✗ ✗ ✔ 1 point
Reason:
I hate K's and the case was pretty much not great and FF is bad conduct

PressF4Respect

11.23.2019 10:22PM

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@Barney

Thanks! And yes, it was morse code. What you CP'd, I think.

Barney

11.23.2019 09:57PM

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@PressF4Respect

Your vote has been deleted as per your request. The previous RFD was in Morse Code (I think)...
"..-. --- .-. . ..-. .. -"

PressF4Respect

11.23.2019 08:53PM

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@DynamicSquid

Oops

Dw though I flagged my vote for removal and will revote

Vader

11.23.2019 06:52PM

I hate K's and the case was pretty much not great and FF is bad conduct. just c and p ing it here so i can revote when it dets deleted

Vader

11.23.2019 06:52PM

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@DynamicSquid

Thanks for pointing it out!

DynamicSquid

11.23.2019 06:48PM

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@Vader

@Username

@PressF4Respect

Hey, I just wanted to point out, did you guys mix up Con and Pro?

Oh, and armoredcat, I can't read binary lol

K_Michael

11.18.2019 12:34AM

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@DynamicSquid

"my opponents didn't respond to any of my arguments in my last speech."
"Round 1 - First argument
Round 2 - Second argument, and clash
Round 3 - Summarization, and clash"
My interpretation of this is that there is no direct response (clash) to the other's argument in the first round. It is only stating my own beliefs.

DynamicSquid

11.16.2019 12:17AM

Links 2 round:

https://blogs.webmd.com/relationships/20160928/4-ways-your-friends-shape-your-future
https://www.inc.com/david-cancel/what-5-people-closest-to-you-say-about-your-future.html

DynamicSquid

11.13.2019 02:00AM

Links:

https://www.verywellmind.com/what-is-nature-versus-nurture-2795392
https://www.medicinenet.com/nature_vs_nurture_theory_genes_or_environment/article.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabula_rasa
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nature_versus_nurture

oromagi

11.24.2019 08:16PM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

RFD in Comments

RationalMadman

11.24.2019 05:30PM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

FF ⠀

Vader

11.24.2019 05:00PM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

FF is bad conduct

PressF4Respect

11.23.2019 10:23PM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

..-. --- .-. . ..-. .. -

This is what Ragnar said my previous RFD was, so if it says anything inappropriate ;)

Lol jk

Barney

11.21.2019 04:09PM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

Not the worst start to a K from con (even if the description indicated the subject matter of us, as in humans), but no follow through, instead he dropped out every round after the first (making it an FF).

Username

11.21.2019 02:23PM

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Pro

Tie

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Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

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Trent0405

11.20.2019 02:14AM

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Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

Full Forfeit.