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Trent0405

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#1588

Wyoming is a Greater State than Vermont, as of now.

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The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

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After 1 vote and with 3 points ahead, the winner is...

Trent0405

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Publication date: 11.02.2019 07:29PM
Last updated date: 11.10.2019 04:56AM
Type: Standard
Number of rounds: 3
Time for argument: One week
Max argument characters: 3,500
Voting period: One week
Point system: Multiple criterions
Voting system: Open

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PaulVerliane

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Greater definition that must be agreed on

"of a more excellent or effective type or quality."

BoP shared.

My opponent must argue that Vermont is greater.

Round 1

Trent0405

11.03.2019 01:26AM

Pro

Freedom/Virtuosity
Wyoming is a freer state, ranking 38th nation-wide while Vermont ranked 46th.

When it comes to virtuosity, Wyoming ranks 8th for charitable giving and 8th for volunteer work, putting Wyoming 4th nation-wide. Vermont is 19th and 46th for both topics, putting them 33rd nationwide. So Wyoming is more virtuous.

Geography

Wyoming is the 10th biggest state with the 37th most water. Vermont has the 45th most land and the 46th most water.

Economy

Wyoming has a bigger GDP. Actually, Vermont has the smallest GDP in the United States. As for GDP per capita, Wyoming still comes ahead with the 9th

highest nationally.

Obviously GDP isn’t everything, but if we look at average income, Wyoming beats Vermont by $3,130.

Wyoming is better at managing it’s budget.

Infrastructure

Wyoming has superior infrastructure.

Quality of Life

Wyoming has the 11th highest quality of life, while Vermont ranks 26th. Also, Vermont ranks lower than Wyoming under the human development index.

Tourism

Wyoming has more tourism. To continue, Vermont has the least amount of tourism currently.

Natural Resources

The top 5 most important natural resources are…

Water--Wyoming has more water.

Clean air--6 of Wyoming’s major cities have an A grade, 5 score a B, and only 1 scores a C for air quality.

Coal--Wyoming is the #1 coal producing state.

Oil--Wyoming produces more oil.

Natural Gas--Wyoming produces more natural gas.

Innovation

By economic innovation, Wyoming comes ahead.

PaulVerliane

11.03.2019 01:34AM

Con

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2014/10/11/24-7-wall-st-states-quality-of-life/16960973/ i'm going to make this real simple

you can quote all the statistics you want but when it boils down to it what is important is what sort of place is Vermont to live in what sort of place is Wyoming to raise a family, which has better schools, hospitals housing entertainment? The United States is one of the world's most prosperous economies, with a gross domestic product that exceeded that of any other country last year. However, a vibrant economy alone does not ensure all residents are well off. In a recent study from the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD), U.S. states under-performed their regional counterparts in other countries in a number of important metrics that gauge well-being.

The OECD's newly released study, "How's Life in Your Region?: Measuring Regional and Local Well-Being for Policy Making," compares nine important factors that contribute to well-being. Applying an equal weight to each of these factors, 24/7 Wall St. rated New Hampshire as the best state for quality of life.

Monica Brezzi, author of the report and head of regional statistics at the OECD, told 24/7 Wall St. considering different dimensions of well-being at the regional level provides a way to identify "where are the major needs where policies can intervene." Brezzi said that, in some cases, correcting one truly deficient measure can, in turn, lead to better results in others.

In order to review well-being at the regional level, the OECD used only objective data in its report, rather than existing survey data. Brezzi noted that current international studies that ask people for their opinion on important measures of well-being often do not have enough data to be broken down by region.
For example, one of the nine measures, health, is based on the mortality rate and life expectancy in each region, rather than on asking people if they feel well. Similarly, another determinant of well-being, safety, is measured by the homicide rate rather than personal responses as to whether people feel safe where they live.

Based on her analysis, Brezzi identified one area where American states are exceptionally strong. "All the American states rank in the top 20% of OECD regions in income," Brezzi said. Massachusetts — one of 24/7 Wall St.'s highest-rated states — had the second-highest per capita disposable household income in the nation, at $38,620. This also placed the state among the top 4% of regions in all OECD countries.
24/7 WALL ST.: See the states with the worst quality of life

3. Vermont
> Employment rate: 79.0% (3rd highest)
> Household disposable income per capita: $30,102 (21st highest)
> Homicide rate: 1.39 per 100,000 people (3rd lowest)
> Voter turnout: 63.3% (22nd highest)Vermont is among the nation's leaders in several well-being measures. State residents are exceptionally well-educated. Nearly 92% of Vermont's workforce had completed at least secondary school last year, nearly the highest rate nationwide. Vermont was one of a handful of states to receive a close to perfect score for housing. With more than three rooms per person, homes tend to be more spacious than those in any other state. Additionally, just 7.2% of residents lacked health care last year, less than half the rate for all Americans, and lower than all but one other state.

Round 2

Trent0405

11.03.2019 01:51AM

Pro

My opponents whole case just copy and pasted with no quotes. My opponent opts to argue quality of life, but the measurements are very faulty. Voter turnout isn't valid for example and I've already proven that Wyoming has superior quality of life in R1.

PaulVerliane

11.03.2019 01:56AM

Con

In what way is quality of life not the penultimate index of greatness i have copied and pasted from reliable sources proving data from credible sources that Vermont quality of life is better tha every other state but two, i have mt my burden of proof, i need say no more

Round 3

Trent0405

11.03.2019 02:04AM

Pro

In what way is quality of life not the penultimate index of greatness i have copied and pasted from reliable sources proving data from credible sources that Vermont quality of life is better tha every other state but two, i have mt my burden of proof, i need say no more

I do think that quality of life is important, but you can't copy and past other peoples work and pass it on as your own without quoting the text. My opponent's only argument has been quality of life, not addressing any of my other contentions. As far as you proving Vermont has a superior quality of life, I have proven the contrary in R1.

PaulVerliane

11.03.2019 04:56AM

Con

"CNBC reports that "the Green Mountain State has America's second-lowest violent-crime rate, a healthy population, a pristine environment and strong antidiscrimination laws to make sure all can enjoy the place."

Nearly 77 percent of those surveyed said they feel "active and productive" -- the highest rate in the nation.
CNBC scored the quality of life in Vermont at 268 out of 300 possible points.
The Green Mountain State ranked second in last year's report.
It ranked 32nd in CNBC's "Top States for Business" report.
New Hampshire scored 225 out of 300 and was dinged by possible poor air quality."https://www.mynbc5.com/article/video-car-blasts-through-business-storefront-in-northern-ireland/29675219 depending on whose study or whose values you can find vermont at the top of quality of life lists and wyoming at the bottom

Trent0405

11.07.2019 08:03PM

#29

Bump for potential voters.

Trent0405

11.04.2019 08:28PM

#28

Bump for voting!!!

Trent0405

11.03.2019 10:31PM

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@PaulVerliane

i was able to prove Wyoming had a better quality of life.

PaulVerliane

11.03.2019 10:26PM

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@Trent0405

quality of life and being a bette rplac to live are the same no/ how are they not the same?

PaulVerliane

11.03.2019 10:26PM

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@Trent0405

they dont , but this is a state that is good for hippies

Trent0405

11.03.2019 10:08PM

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@PaulVerliane

How do hippies make a state good.

Trent0405

11.03.2019 10:05PM

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@PaulVerliane

1-you didn't prove it was a better place to live, you proved it had a higher quality of life which I disputed.

2-If I have 8 valid contentions and you dispute 1, I will at least win 7-1.

PaulVerliane

11.03.2019 10:04PM

#22

https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-most-modern-and-progressive-states-in-the-US-Is-it-true-the-Far-West-states-are-the-most-conservative vermont is hippy heaven end of subject

PaulVerliane

11.03.2019 10:02PM

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@Trent0405

why i had one point vermont is a bette place to live for cool people , thats all i need to prove

Trent0405

11.03.2019 09:59PM

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@PaulVerliane

Okay, well both articles merely proved the same thing though, you must diversify your case.

PaulVerliane

11.03.2019 09:58PM

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@Trent0405

i used 2 in the debate 2 counting this one https://www.mynbc5.com/article/report-vermont-ranked-as-best-place-to-live-in-america/22108021 i had bit of a glitch but i corrected the mistake in the comments section

Trent0405

11.03.2019 09:57PM

#18

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@PaulVerliane

You used 1 in the debate, frankly i can point to articles that say similar things.

PaulVerliane

11.03.2019 09:55PM

#17

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@Trent0405

https://www.thinkvermont.com/live/ i can find more if you want

PaulVerliane

11.03.2019 09:53PM

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@Trent0405

i concede that i've posted at least 6 seperate articles 6

Trent0405

11.03.2019 09:46PM

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@PaulVerliane

Basing your whole case on an article is faulty, I can point to articles that say similar things frankly, like Wyoming being a better state to raise a family.

https://www.wyomingbusinessreport.com/industry_news/economic_indicators/wyo-no-in-best-states-to-raise-a-family/article_5fabef76-8741-11e7-824f-3b13c4c0789e.html

PaulVerliane

11.03.2019 09:42PM

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@Trent0405

10 Best States To Live In America

We used science and data to determine which U.S. states have it made.

Chris Kolmar, About HomeSnacks After analyzing all 50 U.S. states, we came up with this list as the 10 best states in our nation for 2019:
New Hampshire (Photos)
Massachusetts (Photos)
Hawaii (Photos)
Connecticut (Photos)
New Jersey (Photos)
Vermont (Photos)
Minnesota (Photos)
Virginia (Photos)
Rhode Island (Photos)
Maryland (Photos) https://www.homesnacks.net/these-are-the-10-best-states-to-live-in-america-123067/ so sorry wyoming did not make top ten

Trent0405

11.03.2019 09:28PM

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@PaulVerliane

Wyoming boasts a higher quality of life, more natural resources, and a better economy even by per person measurements.

Wyoming is the better state to retire in http://worldpopulationreview.com/states/best-states-to-retire/

PaulVerliane

11.03.2019 04:59AM

#12

Report: Vermont ranked as best place to live in America NBC used data points to measure quality of life across the country.

That included crime rates, tourism, healthcare and inclusiveness written into state laws.

Rankings:
10. Massachusetts
9. Colorado
7. (tie) Montana & Iowa
5. (tie) Washington & New Hampshire
4. North Dakota
3. Minnesota
2. Hawaii
1. Vermont https://www.mynbc5.com/article/report-vermont-ranked-as-best-place-to-live-in-america/22108021

Trent0405

11.03.2019 02:05AM

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@PaulVerliane

you're up

Dr.Franklin

11.03.2019 01:47AM

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@PaulVerliane

That doesnt mean Prosperity, it has tons of fucking people. China is the same thing, a large number of people and a large economy but the Prosperity is shit

PaulVerliane

11.03.2019 01:46AM

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@Dr.Franklin

Very much so, i thought you have studied economics you do realize california is the worlds fifth largest economy no? https://www.cbsnews.com/news/california-now-has-the-worlds-5th-largest-economy/ i'm very disappointed you are obviously some uneducated brainwashed deplorable i thought you were different

Dr.Franklin

11.03.2019 01:43AM

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@PaulVerliane

LOL Californa more prosperity than Arizona??

and Ohio AND Indiana. LOL what BS

Dr.Franklin

11.03.2019 01:41AM

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@PaulVerliane

Well I live In Boston suburbs so every state sucks BOO HOO

But still fuck Baker

PaulVerliane

11.03.2019 01:39AM

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@Dr.Franklin

according to the prosperity index a business index i might add Vermont https://usprosperity.net/ is ranked 6th ost propserous mass is first miss is last surprise and wyoming is 29th

Dr.Franklin

11.02.2019 09:42PM

Vermont sucks,BOOOO Bernie

Trent0405

11.02.2019 08:52PM

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@PaulVerliane

I'd implore you to diversify your case. Don't just argue prosperity, I have planned multiple contentions, if you just argue that you'll lose seeing how I'll have several uncontested arguments.

PaulVerliane

11.02.2019 08:37PM

VERMONT

PaulVerliane

11.02.2019 08:35PM

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@Trent0405

https://usprosperity.net/ vermost is a success as far as the prosperity index is concerned wyoming? not so much

PaulVerliane

11.02.2019 08:35PM

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@Trent0405

wel just for starter vermont is ranked like 6th in propserity on legantum wyoming is lie 29th these states arent even close

OoDart

11.07.2019 08:23PM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

Pro provided several reasons that Wyoming is greater, including: Freedom, virtuosity, geography, economy, infrastructure, quality of life, tourism, natural resources, and innovation.

Con provided only one argument that Vermont is greater: quality of life.

Regardless of who was right regarding which state has a better quality of life, pro wins because con dropped literally every other point.