The mystery "Sea Peoples" of the late Bronze Age were most likely Central/Northern Europeans.
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Context: The fall of the Bronze Age is regarded by historians as the most catastrophic event in human history. With the attacks of the Sea Peoples, the great Bronze Age empires fell one by one. The Hittites, the Levant, and Greece felt their wrath. Even still, the great Sea Peoples are a complete historical mystery. Conjecture as to their identity has ranged from Greeks themselves (fighting other cultures then turning on eachother and destroying themselves, launching them into a Dark Age) to the ancestors of the Vikings. However, I posit that the Sea Peoples were most likely central Europeans.
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Anyways, I guess I just need to give a singular reason to vote Aff.
‘We have, for instance, found pottery resembling corresponding items from Greece and Cyprus in terms of form and decoration, and also cylindrical loom weights for textile production that could be found in central and south-east Europe around the same time.
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Reason: FF- Still hope to see Best's argument for this
That is a valid point, but there are a couple of reasons I would disagree:
Firstly, Central Europe is relative, I would consider the Germanic peoples, the Alpine Celts, and the Yugoslav area to be included in my reference to "central Europe." (I should be more specific next debate I think.)
Secondly, the "Dorian invasion" (It was not actually Dorians, this was an etiological myth. In fact, it was more likely the Sea Peoples.) of Greece started with a naval invasion of the Peloponnese, something that Europeans with access to the Adriatic Sea would have no problem with.
Not a lot of sea in central Europe.
The central bit is a dead give away.
A classic saying, from Poor Richard's Almanac
sea peoples freebies are the best kind of debate, I always say
Well....sh*t...
Welp...
ouch that was fast. The dopplegangers are running in packs tonight. lock yer doors.
shock the monkey tonight
don't you know you've got to....
We will have to see.
there is no way to even verify most likely status its all a guess
Anyways, glad to see this debate getting accepted. I'll get to work on a constructive.
Hence the title, "most likely"
Thank you
there is no way to know it happend too long ago to verify or even matter
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why should anyone care?
That is the challenge, yes. My argument is more revolving around probability due to historical context. It should make sense once someone hopefully accepts
Great topic although I can't see how PRO proves with texts as scarce and ambiguous as these
It will be an interesting one for certain. My problem is getting an opponent in time
I'll be interested in reading this one. I like history but really am not that knowledgeable in it.
Me as well, I wanted to switch things up a bit!
I agree 100% Love these debates!!!!!!!
Ancient history, very cool
It's a week-long argument, so there is plenty of time if you decide to accept.
If i did not spam myself with like 10 debate's i would take this. This is my kind of debate