Instigator / Pro

billbatard

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Topic

#1507

Ragnar has blocked me he should not be allowed to vote on my debates!

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Finished

The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.

Winner & statistics

Winner

After 6 votes and with 6 points ahead, the winner is...

RationalMadman

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Publication date: 10.07.2019 09:15AM
Last updated date: 05.15.2020 03:39PM
Type: Standard
Number of rounds: 2
Time for argument: Twelve hours
Max argument characters: 10,000
Voting period: One week
Point system: Winner selection
Voting system: Open

Contender / Con

RationalMadman

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Description

Ragnar should be banned from this site!@! he has violated my personal safe spaces! i protest!

Round 1

billbatard

10.07.2019 10:52PM

Pro

Forfeited

RationalMadman

10.07.2019 11:01PM

Con

He should be allowed to vote on your debates even though he has blocked you because it is his right to vote, his right to block and your right to do both back that plays into the fairness of the matter at hand.

Round 2

billbatard

10.08.2019 08:50AM

Pro

It is easy to find reference works and websites that attribute the phrase to Charles Dickens, who put it into print in Oliver Twist, 1838. When Mr. Bumble, the unhappy spouse of a domineering wife, is told in court that "...the law supposes that your wife acts under your direction", replies:

"If the law supposes that," said Mr. Bumble, squeezing his hat emphatically in both hands, "the law is a ass - a idiot".https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/the-law-is-an-ass.html

RationalMadman

10.08.2019 08:50PM

Con

Forfeited

Barney

05.15.2020 03:39PM

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@Worldthink897

Back when this debate took place, I was not yet a moderator (it's actually a pretty recent development). As a moderator, I may not block people on a whim.

Worldthink897

05.15.2020 03:10PM

he is a mod you cannot block him.

oromagi

10.14.2019 09:56PM

CON argued users' rights, PRO quoted others as is PRO's wont.

billbatard

10.09.2019 03:09PM

god this is so unfair

RationalMadman

10.09.2019 12:37PM

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@billbatard

yes, but you can justify banning him from accepting debates maybe. The latter is up to the mods' discretion, but the voting is always allowed even with blocks.

billbatard

10.09.2019 11:50AM

if i block raganr can he still vote in my debates?

DroneYoinker

10.07.2019 01:17PM

Even though... you made a debate complaining about your lack of right to vote... Hypocrite

Nemiroff

10.07.2019 10:50AM

Dude, your starting to sound like donald trump. Everything that doesnt go the way you want must be unfair and part of a conspiracy against you. No debator has (apparently) ever been treated as bad as you. WITCHHUNT!!!

Ramshutu

10.15.2019 11:51AM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Winner

1 point(s)

Reason:

Both sides forfeited, but Con was the only side that offered any form of argument relevant to the debate.

oromagi

10.14.2019 09:55PM

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Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Winner

1 point(s)

Reason:

rfdic

PressF4Respect

10.13.2019 03:27AM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Winner

1 point(s)

Reason:

Although both sides forfeited once, Pro's only argument was barely related to the topic at hand, while Con actually made a valid point, which was dropped by pro.

Trent0405

10.12.2019 11:57PM

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Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Winner

1 point(s)

Reason:

Really weird debate, both forfeited 1 time so conduct is tied. Con does make a point about Ragnar having the right to vote, and this is dropped by pro. Pro merely points to something about Charles Dickens, entirely irrelevant to the resolution.

OoDart

10.09.2019 03:18PM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Winner

1 point(s)

Reason:

Both forfeited one round.

Con provides an actual, fact-based argument (regarding Ragnar's right to vote).

Pro simply talks about a quote by Charles Dickens calling the law an a**. It isn't really a quality argument. I struggle to find any relevance of this to the debate.

David

10.08.2019 09:00PM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Winner

1 point(s)

Reason:

Both forfeited, but con was theo only one to present a real argument. Con's main argument is that Ragnar still has the right to vote, which he does. Pro never makes an argument and the only thing he responds with is Charles Dickens, which makes absolutely no senes in this context.