Instigator / Con
7
1553
rating
24
debates
56.25%
won
Topic
#140
0.999 repeating equals 1
Status
Finished
The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.
Winner & statistics
After 2 votes and with 7 points ahead, the winner is...
David
Parameters
- Publication date
- Last updated date
- Type
- Standard
- Number of rounds
- 2
- Time for argument
- Three days
- Max argument characters
- 10,000
- Voting period
- Two weeks
- Point system
- Multiple criterions
- Voting system
- Open
Contender / Pro
14
1485
rating
92
debates
45.65%
won
Description
No information
Round 1
Forfeited
The statement 0.9999... = 1 is so uncontroversial among mathemeiticians. The BOP rests in con to show that it is wrong.
Round 2
no.
Yes
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>Reported vote: RationalMadman // Moderator action: NOT removed<
3 points to Pro (arguments). Reasons for voting decision: Yes means yes and no means no. Con says 'no'. Con forfeits Round 1. Pro contradicts 'no' with an almighty 'yes'. Pro states that since the consensus is 0.9r equals 1 (which they didn't prove was the consensus with any reliable source), they have pushed the burden of proof onto Con. Con lost.
[*Reason for non-removal*] The voter examines the sole argument presented in the debate and explains why it, combined with the forfeit, leads Pro to win. The vote is, thus, sufficient.
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Why would anyone bother to report the votes?
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>Reported Vote: Tejretics // Mod action: Not Removed
>Points Awarded: 4 points to Con for Arguments and Conduct
>Reason for Decision: What participant made more convincing arguments? There was no actual argumentation in this debate. However, Pro pointed out that there is a consensus among mathematicians that 0.9r = 1. While Pro doesn't provide actual evidence for this argument, Con drops it and drops Pro's claim that the burden of proof, therefore, lies on Con. Given these drops, "arguments" points go to Pro.
What participant had better conduct? Con forfeited one round and *effectively* forfeited another. Thus, the conduct point goes to Pro.
>Reason for Mod Action: The voter surveys the main arguments, assesses these arguments, and weighs them to produce a verdict. This suffices to award argument points. A forfeit is sufficient grounds to award conduct, so long as arguments are also explained. The voter is therefore permitted to award conduct.
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This might be interesting...
That's the position I take in this debate, but that doesn't that mean I believe it.
So you believe that .999... is NOT equal to 1?
How will we see if you don't?
We'll see what happens.
Make the resolution and take Pro and I'll body you this time.
Perhaps I'd like to play devil's advocate.
Look at the guy realising he is wrong