Telescopes that can look into the past is the best way to teach History

Huzzah!

Fair enough. You can now vote.

Looks like I read it but never clicked "accept"

hmmmm, well thanks for pointing it out. I need to revisit it then

It says you have not yet read the site's code of conduct. There is a medal you receive when you read and accept the code of conduct.

I have done both I believe

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>Points Awarded: Tie

>Reason for Decision: Let's be diplomatic and make this a tie. I found both the arguments "another round, another forfeit" and "forfeited" rather convincing and brilliant.

>Reason for Mod Action: This vote is not eligible to vote. In order to vote, an account must: (1) Read the site’s COC AND have completed 2 non-troll/non-FF debate OR have 100 forum posts.
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Wait why are there these rules to begin with?

oromagi

Criterion Con Tie Pro Points
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Reason: I really would have liked to have seen Whiteflame's argument. I imagine it might have been super good. Alas, the full forfeit. That's core pond duct!

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Well, that’s a shame. I’d still like to have this debate. If you comment here or message me in the next 48 hours, we can try to do a 2 round debate. Otherwise, I’ll consider this a full forfeit and try to get the debate deleted - not a fan of winning debates that way.

Just a heads up, about 30 hr. left.

I'll publish my argument later when I have time.

Great. Challenge accepted.

Done

Checking in again to see if you can change the time to post arguments.

Haven't seen the timeframe for arguments change yet. I can usually do 2 days, but I'd like to have a week just in case something goes awry.

Alright then.

I really don't know what you're hedging against by having that large of a character limit. Honestly, on a debate like this where the subject of the debate isn't something we can deeply research or source, I'd be amazed if either of us managed to reach 10k characters, much less 30k. However, I would like to ensure that this debate is easily readable so that we can get more voters, as Ragnar suggests, and I think allowing for the possibility that one such round occurs is detrimental to that goal.

If course, we are already using telescopes that can look into the past as the best way to learn about astronomy.

How exactly is 30,000 a precaution? A precaution against what?

I don't follow.

For character limits I suggest pre-write your R1, then triple the length. To attract voters, 5k is the longest you'd want to go, but 10k gives a strong safety net.

I will extend the timeframe of it to 1 week but the 30,000 character limit is just a precaution.

I'm considering it. I think I can argue for this, and I do love my history. Couple of things: could we extend the timeframe for arguments to 1 week, and could we reduce the character count to 10,000? I don't expect either of us would use the full 30,000 anyway.

You want to debate against me? I'm quite new.

Nope, makes sense to me.

You can hear sound.

To answer your questions:
1) There are no limitations. You can choose where you want to go. Day, time, and location can be selected.
2) No.
3)One-way viewing screens
4) Available teaching tools.

Does that answer your questions or do I need to clarify?

Alright, a few questions:

1) How exactly would these work? Would anyone be able to select a day, time and location to view? Are there limitations, and if so, what are they?
2) Can pictures and/or film be taken from the various times and locations viewed through these telescopes?
3) Do these telescopes physically manifest at the time and location of choice, or are they more like one-way viewing screens without physical presence in the past?
4) As Con, are you allowed to proffer a similarly science fiction device as an alternative to compare with these telescopes, or can you only compare with available teaching tools?

They'd be the best way to verify it, but watching (particularly without sound) would take too long for most historical events to be a casual way to learn.