Prologue
Thanks for the debate, Virt. Good luck.
== NEG ==
My case is outlined by the following:
1. Abortion is the unjust extermination of a human life and is prima facie morally objectionable
2. Humanity extends to the unborn
3. At the moment of conception, there is no sound criteria to determine
that the unborn are less important/human than those already born
All can be extended to the following logical iterations:
C1.
P1: Living humans ought to have rights
and liberties enforced by judicial laws
P2: If humans come into being at the
moment of conception, they ought to have rights and liberties enforced by
judicial laws
P3: Humans come into being at the moment
of conception
C: Humans ought to have rights and
liberties enforced by judicial laws at the moment of conception
C2.
P1: It is prima facie morally
wrong to kill an innocent human being
P2: If abortions end the life of an
innocent human being it should be illegal
P3: Abortions kill innocent human beings
C: Abortions should be illegal
C3.
P1: Already born humans have rights and
liberties enforced by law
P2: If there is no sound criteria to show
that the unborn are less important/human than the already born, they should be seen
equally in the eyes of the law
P3: There is no sound criteria to show
that the unborn are less important/human than the already born.
C: The unborn should be seen as equals
in the eyes of the law
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C1. Premise One
The importance of upholding our rights and liberty are quintessential in
a fair and equal society. I am sure my opponent and I both agree that laws are
crucial to affirm human rights and liberty which are fundamental to any modern
society. Moreover, I believe it is fairly reasonable to assert that any unjust
killing of another is morally wrong. Hence, it would follow that the killing of
an innocent human being is prima facie wholly
immoral. This argument can be outlined more objectively by the Non-Aggression Principle.
C1,1 The Non-Aggression Principle (NAP)
P1: The NAP ought not to be violated
P2: Abortion violates the NAP
P3: If an agent violates NAP then it
should be prohibited by the government
C: Abortion should be prohibited
C1,1 Premise One
The NAP is a political axiom deeming all initiation of aggression of any
individual and their property as inherently wrong [1]. This is a fundamental pillar
of any successful society, so much so, I would be surprised if my opponent
didn't accept this as a truism. If Pro does disagree I will support this in the
next round.
C1.1 Premise Two
Abortion contravenes the NAP by the forceful initiation of aggression
towards it and is therefore forbidden per the NAP.
C1.1 Premise Three
From premise one, I believe my opponent, the voters and I would all
agree that the NAP is a crucial facet of any institution and that would entail
that anything that contravenes the NAP should be prohibited by the government.
C1.1 Conclusion
Hence, the conclusion logically follows.
C1. Premise Two
If the right to protect human life is upheld, it would intuitively
follow that if it is proven that human life begins at conception, they should
possess the same inalienable rights, any other member of the community has.
C1. Premise Three
This premise is valid via a posteriori.
Scientific consensus provides evidence that life begins at conception in
earnest. It can be observed in Patten's textbook, Human Embryology:
"It
is the penetration of the ovum by a spermatozoan and resultant mingling of the
nuclear material each brings to the union that constitutes the culmination of
the process of fertilization and marks the initiation of the life of a new
individual." (2)
Moreover, this is corroborated by another scholarly entry by Dr.
Michelle M. Mathews-Rohs, from Harvard Medical School, who states:
"It
is scientifically correct to say that an individual human life begins at
conception” (2)
Furthermore, when conception first occurs the single celled 'zygote' already possesses the DNA blueprint for the
unique new human. Characteristics including, sex, eye and hair colour, race
etc. are all harmoniously included in this blueprint. (3)
The scientific consensus regarding the nature of the beginning of human
existence ratifies this premise and renders it egregious to classify a zygote
or any later rendition anything less than human. The lack of physical
development is not valid criteria to rebuke the inalienable rights it ought to
possess, as a human never stops developing, even after birth. Moreover,
although the unborn are contingent upon a mother to survive, their unique
independence and right to life ought to be preserved, as a man's life is
preserved when he is contingent upon a life support machine.
C1. Conclusion
Hence, the conclusion is logically entailed
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C2. Premise One
This is fairly axiomatic and I commend its veracity to my opponent.
Anarchy would ensue if all had the right to end another's life.
C2. Premise Two
Again, it's reasonable to deduce that if an activity holds the intent of
killing innocent humans, it should be illegal.
C2. Premise Three
Abortion is the extermination of a foetus. Hence, it intuitively follows
that abortion is in violation of one's rights and ought to be illegalised.
C2. Conclusion
Hence, the conclusion is valid via modus ponens.
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C3. The indifference between the unborn
and the born
P1: Already born humans have rights and
liberties enforced by law
P2: If there is no sound criteria to show
that the unborn are less important/human than the already born, they should be seen
equally in the eyes of the law
P3: There is no sound criteria to show
that the unborn are less important/human than the already born.
C: The unborn should be seen as equals
in the eyes of the law
C3. Premise One
This is axiomatic.
C3. Premise Two
This is a premise very similar to the lines of reasoning that led to the
abolishment of slavery. Since there was no sound criteria to objectively reduce
the importance/humanity of different races we ought to consider them as equals.
C3. Premise Three
Here I argue there are no discernible criteria that can distinctively
under class an unborn baby from the unborn.
The only differences that separate the unborn and the born are:
1. Consciousness
2. Development
3. Experience
I will prove that none of these would successfully undermine the
livelihood of the unborn relative to the born.
C3.1 Consciousness
An argument could be made that as an unborn baby is not conscious of
itself and its surroundings it is morally acceptable to kill it. This would
rest upon two cruxes:
-Killing is justified as it is currently unconscious
or
-Killing is justified as it has never experienced consciousness
before
Here, I justify my counter-argument by comparing a zygote to one in a
coma. I assert both are non-sentient beings.
According to Merrion-Webster, sentience is defined as: “the capacity
to feel, perceive or experience subjectively” [4].
I concede the fact that at conception, a zygote does not possess sentience,
but only if it is also true for those in a coma. Those who are in a coma can be
described as having “no consciousness at all” and are “completely
unresponsive” [5]. Cleary the zygote and those in a coma are effectively
indistinguishable in terms of capacity. Here, I posit that if one in a coma will emerge from the coma in a specifically finite period of time (let’s say 9
months), then it would be unfair and immoral to kill that person in a coma
because they have the capacity for sentience.
As such, my argument in logical formulation:
C3.1.1 Capacity For Sentience
P1: If X has the capacity for
sentience, it is prima facie morally wrong to kill it
P2: Both foetuses and coma patients (at
least some) have the capacity for
sentience
C: It is prima facie morally
wrong to kill foetuses and coma patients (that have capacity for sentience)
P1: P --> Q
P2: P
C: ∴ Q
from P1 and P2, Modus Ponens.
C3.1.1 Premise One
I believe this premise should be fairly axiomatic in light of the coma
analogy – especially when you consider medically induced comas. If one is in a
medically induced coma for an operation, their importance/humanity is
unchanged. If this premise were untrue then it would be okay for me to kill
whoever is getting their wisdom teeth removed.
C3.1.1 Premise Two
Again, I believe this premise is fairly axiomatic. Foetuses will become sentient (excluding miscarriages and complications at birth), and those
in a medically induced coma will emerge from their coma post-operation.
C3.1.1 Conclusion
Hence, the conclusion logically follows from the premises
C3.2 Development
This is incoherent as humans continue developing their whole lives,
hence the argument would have to deduce why a life that is rapidly developing
is less valuable than a life that is more developed and continuing to develop
more slowly.
C3.3 Experience
Similar to development, this is incoherent as humans continue their
experience throughout their whole lives, some with less experience than others.
None of which accurately compares the value of one life to another.
==
Summary
My argument is contingent upon the notion that human life begins at
conception and that human life ought to be protected through law. I have
provided a cumbersome amount of evidence that affirms this position, accompanied
by the framework that there is no way to under value an unborn child over one
that is already born. Hence the resolution is negated.
Over to you, Pro.
References
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>Reported Vote: Dr.Franklin // Mod action: [not Removed]
>Points Awarded: 1 points to con for conduct.
>Reason for Decision: "1/2 forfiet, neither side convinced me”
Reason for Mod Action>vote is sufficient
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>Reported Vote: Trent0405 // Mod action: [Removed]
>Points Awarded: 7 points to con.
>Reason for Decision: "Description states how you can't forfeit, meaning PRO conceded.
Reason for Mod Action> Source and S&G points are not explained and thus this vote is not sufficient.
While the rules of a debate maybe used to produce conduct; and the rules here explicitly state that conduct can be considered meriting a loss meaning arguments could be awarded- this does not equate to the debate being unmoderated.
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It is to compensate for veing weak debaters. The more they can control their environment and see the exact same thing over and over, the easier it is to grab wins. I saw BSH1 beg an opponent to allow the debate to end in a tie once because he argued something he didn't like. When he refused, the next debate bsh1 made a rule to make people assume "normative ethics". It is just pussy like behavior.
What if you break on of your own rules accidentally? Then you would be a hypocrite, plus you would lose the debate.
Then that's their problem, not mine.
It's like reading the terms of service to things. Most people don't read them thoroughly enough and as a result, it would not be the best way to grab a win.
To post what we would expect of the other player.
Why do your debates and Bsh1 debates have so many rules?
Ireland didn't outlaw it. They previously just had it restricted with the life of the other as the exception.
European countries are very diverse. In some countries it is easier, while some countries (Ireland) it is much harder. Ireland completely outlawed abortion until recently.
Argumentum ad populum is "The fallacy of attempting to induce acceptance of an unexamined or unproved conclusion by arousing the feelings, prejudices, or interests of a political party, mob, or any large group of people."
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/bandwagon
It's like saying "Europe has free health care, why shouldn't we?" It's a fallacious argument.
What does that mean?
Evidence Incase Omar asks for it: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/278350/
Argumentum ad populum
If Europe heavily restricts abortions beyond 12 weeks, why should America be more lenient?