1421
rating
23
debates
30.43%
won
Topic
#1088
A total gun ban
Status
Finished
The debate is finished. The distribution of the voting points and the winner are presented below.
Winner & statistics
After 5 votes and with 35 points ahead, the winner is...
Wylted
Parameters
- Publication date
- Last updated date
- Type
- Standard
- Number of rounds
- 3
- Time for argument
- One week
- Max argument characters
- 30,000
- Voting period
- Two weeks
- Point system
- Multiple criterions
- Voting system
- Open
1387
rating
34
debates
22.06%
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Description
Round 1: Arguments
Round 2 : Rebuttal of opponent's Round 1
Round 3: Rebuttal of opponent's Round 2
If you break format, it is an auto loss
Round 1
The reason anti-gun people want guns banned is because they believe that legalizing firearms causes more deaths.
In summary, the entire leftist argument can be dismantled with one statistic.
According to the CDC, defensive gun use saves more innocent lives every year than gun crimes kill innocent lives.
The Plan
This debate will talk about a plan. A plan to turn the Earth into the Garden of Eden. The ultimate Red Pill is that mankind is a cancer. Fame social commentator Joe Rogan says it better than I can:
“I think human beings are just a very complicated form of bacteria. I think if you looked at the earth as a living organism, and who's to say that it's not some sort of super organism? It's certainly a host for life, and we're considered a living organism, and we're a host for life. There's more Ecole living inside our gut than there have ever been humans on this earth. There's bacteria constantly around you, and your body is fighting off that bacteria, until your body grows old and dies, and then it doesn’t fight anymore. That bacteria just eats your body. That's what its there for.
If you looked at the Earth as a living organism as you're flying into L.A and as you're passing all these beautiful mountains, and you see the ocean ahead, and it all looks so natural and beautiful, and then you see L.A. And you think, well, what the fuck is that? It’s a growth, that’s cancer. Its big, its brown, it stinks, smokes coming out of it, and it gets bigger every year. And it doesn’t matter what you do, its going to keep going, you could knock it down with a hurricane and it just rebuilds. Light it on fire, it rebuilds.” [1]
As this debate goes on, you are going to learn a few things. One is that mankind is a Cancer. We are going to learn that loyalty to mankind is misplaced and stupid. We have no right to value a human life over that of your pets, or the birds flying over head. We are no more important than a random squirrel running by. In fact your life is less valuable than a piece of shit. You are a single life, and the shit is millions of lives, bacteria living in harmony.
- Ban guns to make the populace easier to kill when we plan our night of retribution on behalf of other species.
- Horde illegal guns ourselves in secret store houses, to be used on the night of retribution.
- Carry out the Night of retribution
- Once the night of retribution is complete systematically eradicate all survivors
- Enjoy the sunset and committ mass suicide.
- Unfriendly AI- Everyday scientists are working on creating an artificial intelligence that is smarter than even 1000 men. If this succeeds there is no telling what this AI will be like. If a vastly superior intelligence to humans wants to wipe us out, there is nothing we can do.
- Nuclear warfare- All kinds of nations hostile to each other such as Russia and the United States have access to nuclear weapons where a single misunderstanding can have the planet destroyed in the crossfire.
- SETI- Seti can make contact with aliens finally, which could be a disaster if these aliens want to crush us before we become advanced enough to threaten them, and needless to say, vaporizing our planet would kill all humans and animals.[6]
- Worship me as a God who is trying to return the Garden of Eden to Earth
- Become Vegans, so we can limit some of the damage caused by being omnivores
- Give me all of your excess possessions and your loyalty.
- Sale your car, give me the money and ride a bike to stop polluting the Earth
- Recruit me more members
- Other than for recruitment, cut off contact with anybody not in our group.
- Become politically active, pushing for anti gun laws and becoming pro abortion.
- All men are to be celibate
- All women will make themselves available to me sexually 24/7 but use birth control and if neccessary abortions
- Horde Guns in secret stashes
- Train for the night of retribution
- https://www.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/33gjpt/best_quote_from_jr_ever/
- http://s-risks.org/the-case-against-speciesism/
- https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2013/jun/30/stephen-emmott-ten-billion
- https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/may/21/human-race-just-001-of-all-life-but-has-destroyed-over-80-of-wild-mammals-study
- https://www.nrdc.org/onearth/climate-scientists-world-we-have-only-20-years-theres-no-turning-back
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_catastrophic_risk#Anthropogenic
Round 2
Forfeited
There are no new arguments allowed in the final round, and my opponent will likely be unable to win no matter what he puts with that being the norm. I would appreciate a concession to save us both time. I hope we can debate this again when my opponent finds the time if he is still interested
Round 3
oopsir doopsie
I accept my opponent's concession, and if he wants to take this seriously at some point I am willing to debate him on a similar resolution as negotiated between us.
I just wanted your personal opinion, jerk.
That is a question for the voters, not moderation.
Please address whether my arguments are relevant or not.
This debate is basically a full forfeit by Con.
Which would make the healthcare system worse proving my point that it is not abput helping people get better healthcare
Yes, and they love forcing people to do things, slavery and their shitty healthcare
Anyone studying the history of the party knows why this is the case. It was a party created not for any moral beliefs but merely to pander to enough groups to get power. It was only formed to gain power
oops a double negative
"They pretend like they are pro homosexual but they are supportive of Muslims who disproportionately believe that Gays should be stoned to death and institute the policy when they are the majority of a nation."
I could NOT agree more
They pretend like they are pro homosexual but they are supportive of Muslims who disproportionately believe that Gays should be stoned to death and institute the policy when they are the majority of a nation.
Their politicians make it easier for kids to be removed from their homes and placed in foster care, but they made sure to put me in an abusive foster home. Destroying the argument thay they give two shits about kids. Kids are still to this day abused in the system
Thank you
Their senators ban guns but have personal security which is armed keeping them safe from the negative effects of their policies. They pretend like they want business out of government but pander to big business by making policies that harm small businesses and increase the market share of their much bigger competitors.
They also pretend to care about the poor for example but oppose Laisse Faire capitalism which would almost entirely wipe out poverty. I could go on and on.
For example they pretwnd kike the are friendly towards blacks but support abortions that disproportionately kill blacks, support minimum wage increases which disproportionately cause blacks to lose jobs at a higher rate than whites and they support a welfare state incentivizing black couples not to get married and as a result the traditional family structure is less common in black communities causing more black single mothers with their children feeling the effects.
How are liberals generally hypocrites?
Typically liberals are hypocrites, so when I debate for a liberal policy I will genuinely act like one.
Wylted was being a hypocrite. He wanted to horde guns while wanting them banned.
Wylted actually did a pretty nice job laying out the framework underlying their reasoning for a total gun ban.
This was on topic, but if it wasn't it would be a tied vote, unless conduct is counted.
You guys probably know the Code of Conduct better then I do. If 2 people are debating about guns, person A posts a short argument, person B posts a huge argument off topic, and Person A forfeits. Who wins?
This is a full forfeit and you both showed prior interest in the debate. Do you mind giving a quick vote?
Okay, I will debate one of the mods on this and have the rule changed. Stuoid rule
The COC states,
"Posting or engaging in commercial advertising anywhere on the site is strictly prohibited."
The advertising is not relevant to the debate.
Nothing wrong with advertising if it is relevant to the debate. Also God (me) loves you. Give up your possessions and any female lovers you have to me, and join my family
Your argument is an advertising to join your cult. Not interested, and your argument is largely off topic. Con deserves the win. I am unfriending Pro.
I was trying to trigger libs
Is it still an easy win after seeing those arguments for pro?
I never rest. When you see only one set of footprints in the sand, it is because I am carrying you
...and on the seventh source, he rested
Did you prepare for that argument
Good thing I'm not making a leftist argument.
I wanted to argue with him that it wasn't an easy win, but my record doesn't back that up.
easy win for con
easy win for con
Did you forget about me?
Yes, but I have a strong argument
Devil's Advocate?
Interested?
right up my political ally