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@janesix
Really. That's different. I have all kinds of conversations in dreams I often lose when I wake up. Wonder why that shuts down for you.
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@Stephen
Snakes being punished is bs anyway. Satan has to ask to do anything per Job. It's still God letting things happen then punishing someone for his decision for show.
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If you lookup the nine dimensions of consciousness, level seven is light and sound make forms. Like sand on speakers. Did you hear anything.
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Jews and Muslims sacrifice more than Satanist who tend to be atheist. No one in Wicca is sacrificing anything. Serving food is no different than you cooking a burgher. That said you can call out morons in a religion and still be in that religion. And there's no way to tell if someone is faithfully or cultural religion wise. It's an honor system. I know I get irritated with cosplay in paganism. If Christians dressed like Jesus to go to church we would laugh at them. Put on armor to worship Odin it's cool. Then you have to figure things out who's pagan and who just likes watching Vikings.
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@Dr.Franklin
No parent or decent person should have to ask that
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You should credit your posts like this. Word for word from another site. Indigo is a color on the blue scale. It can describe the color move from blue to purple accurately.
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@EtrnlVw
There are a lot of spirit workers taking about the collective consciousness and the powers that be using it to disrupt our nature to unify and work together via fear and hate.
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Humans and gods are a product of nature and evolution. The creative force that started life and natural laws is not really aware. It's just life. Creation stories in myth are to show that man is capable of comprehending abstract concepts and learning how the universe works with and through the gods.
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Is there proof the secret conversations are relevent to the populous as a whole and not just a q and a session with an individual to their specific doubts.
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@secularmerlin
Afterlife in the simplest terms is the spirit existing after death. The details of where are irrelevant and side tracking to keep from discussing the topic.
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The gods are a matter of faith and belief not evidence. You can't present evidence of emotion in any relationship. You state what you feel and people can trust you or they don't. If they trust you it still doesn't mean they think you are right about the emotions you are feeling. Gods are the same as any relationship. You stay in it or don't based on how you feel about the gods and what they are doing for you or you experience nothing or negativity and walk away.
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Say you have faith in a spouse people don't question you. Say you have faith in an afterlife and the word has no meaning? The word and concept haven't changed but it's no longer meaningful? Come on who is not being honest here.
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Being an atheist does not have anything to do with understanding science better than a non atheist what a ridiculous thing to think.
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Religions have as much to do with how we live as when we die. There is no way to prove a soul/ spirit or lack thereof. Your opinion is as solid as anyone else.
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@Double_R
Inheritance isn't just at trust funds. If I want my kids to have my property and house when I die they should get it without the government getting half since I pay out of my income and property taxes.
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No sure what resurrection really means. Jesus didn't come back to life and keep living. His soul crossed over. He didn't walk around alive for years after he died. He appeared to people. I know several mediums who can talk to and see the dead too.
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Why do people think because you worked hard to give to your children when you die your kids should suffer and give up almost half of what their parents worked for.
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God of Abraham is not all good but I do not think he's Satan. Satan is part the faith but not how Christians see it. Jesus is some poor guy tied into the bs by the Romans to convert Jews and gentiles to control them all.
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@janesix
They teach that our spirit is unique and survives death. Any one can learn to be a medium or healer. Live by the golden rule, personal responsibility.
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@EtrnlVw
I have been attendancing a Spiritualist church. They consider Spiritualism to be a science. That is why there are so many records from the beginning of the faith.
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@3RU7AL
That's why I say imply. We can't know for sure but actions can give indications.
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Anyone watching this on Netflix? I have found the physical medium stuff cool since all the ones I've meet are mental mediums. I have yet to meet a trance medium too.
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@3RU7AL
It is impossible to quantify what a person "sincerely believed at the time
That is why there is evidence given to imply intent. Going to a home with a weapon compared to grabbing some thing close those kinds of choices.
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If your not willing to do the work and show some loyalty why should they share. There are all kinds of debated on witches keeping their craft secret. Some think you should share with new people to the craft and some think it takes power from your work.
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Einstein's views on religion hold no more weight than anyone elses. Not sure why he makes it into arguments on theism
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@zedvictor4
I think that taking someone's life with their consent is generally, also regarded as wrong.....Notwithstanding extreme situations of legally assisted euthanasia, and socially approved armed conflict...... To name but two instances of selective morality....Abortion being a third of course....Now there's a can of selectively moral worms that's always open
I think it's our right to end our lives ourselves if we see fit. The unborn are not people yet. War is nothing but murder. Choosing to join and possibly dying is a right. Legally we waive prosecuting soldiers for conflict since they are rarely the instigators.
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No, I disagree with that. There is generally evidence for the emotions others feel for us (sharing resources, bodies, lives, having children, generally considering us in their day to day decisions, etc.). On the other hand, faith might have us *know* (read 'fool ourselves') the fidelity of a cheating spouse is true.
Go ahead. Being married doesn't mean you love your spouse. Having kids doesn't mean you love them, ask DHHR.
I think there is a bit of equivocation here too. Faith without verifiable evidence does not lead to knowledge, whereas trust (faith) built on evidence can.
Again you cannot monitor with evidence internal emotions.
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Now imagine how you might feel if a bunch of SHIVA acolytes started passing pro-SHIVA laws in your town and or city?
Shiva is cool as hell but I prefer laws to be secular. Though Shiva statues all over the place would be neat.
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@Benjamin
What? Give me any more information?If by privilege you mean better lives, are you claiming that Christians are given more opportunities or are you claiming that Christians make better decisions?
I mean Christians have better opportunities because they are everywhere and not only reward Christians but oppose other faiths from participating.
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The problem may be the language. There are protected classes who are subject to harassment, bigotry and are hindered. Privilege is different. Christians tend to have privilege.
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@Benjamin
They were not all theological christians. But if you regard Christian as "one who believes in the Christian values" - then every founder was Christian.
Christian values existed before Christ you don't get to own all the religious concepts ever cause you god is the newest.
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@Benjamin
Secularism is a natural result of a west that was freed by Christianity. Under no other religion has secularism succeded.
Actually the Founders who insisted on secularism were not all Christian. And the nations doing better than the US today have little to no religion in the public sector period.
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I have had any official school online myself but I have had access to a lot of pagan and polytheist discussions, lectures and short classes that I wouldn't of had before because they were local somewhere else and not online. I love it. But you have to put in the effort to listen and engage. Some may have a hard time with that. My son hasn't had online school since ABA is really hard to do online. He has been allowed to attend this year even when school is closed. We have been lucky.
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@Benjamin
Were they truly great?
Yes at the time there were.
Apart from being big empires, no. China came close, but they were the least pagan of the countries you listed.
Polytheist not pagan. And China and Japan have practices that are animist based at the time.
All of those countries used forced labour, all of them were dictatorial, all of the oppressed women. Rome killed people for entertainment, Egypt tried to massacre the entire Jewish population, China - well I guess was the best of them - and also the least pagan.
You mean like slavery and forced indentured servitude like the US with cotton, agriculture, rail roads and such? Still using it today with illegal immigration. Let's talk about the killing of the Native Americans and Africans for sport. Let's talk about the complete annihilation of native religions in Europe buy Catholics.
Did they have hospitals? Human rights? Science (not referring to technology)? Capitalism (not slavery)? Democracy? Universities?
The US didn't have those till they came around here. Women and children were property.
And let's discuss that any nation considered free today does not have the church running it's government. Secularism is what saved the West.
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@3RU7AL
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that does not necessarily mean that you hate theists.
Excellent point.
Why is that only atheist can say they are anti a whole group of people and not hate them but any other group who said that would be called out on it.
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@RoderickSpode
The occult, or at least with some practitioners of black magic, dark arts, etc., seem to promote mysterious and dark, particularly for means of intimidation. A tribe going to war for instance, will attempt to appear dark to their tribal opponent. Their witch doctor may attempt to stir up dark violent attitudes, and inflict fear of spell-casting.
Those are also instance of those who work with the dead. That will often come across as dark due to it being done in places said to be ruled by the dead and gods of the dead at night. Cemeteries, wells, lakes and rural crossroads and such.
Welcome back!
And thanks.
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Where one should notice a difference is hospitalizations should drop since those that get it would have reduced symptoms like the chicken pox vaccine. Unlike myself who missed ten days of school and was covered in itchy bumps my son had a few dots and a temperature for two days. Reducing the hospitalization rate and length of symptoms would be the goal.
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@ebuc
Guess you don't know how a forum works. Poor thing
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@ebuc
I'm sure you do since freedom to speak and disagreement are crimes now. Cancel culture liberal dream.
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@ebuc
Good to know you are a mind reader will come in handy for later conversation. I think any Democrat is as corrupt as Trump. I think all Americans are sick of shit politicians. You can agree or disagree. I don't care either way. I sleep fine at night cause I accepted our system is rigged a long, long time ago.
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@ebuc
I did not vote for Trump either time. It's a nice try though.
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