Biden is the 45th President

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Donald Trump has been criminally charged in a separate federal investigation into efforts to overturn the result of the 2020 presidential election.
If he is found guilty he should be removed as the 45th President and all his records expunged.
Remember that he was not elected by the people, but lost his 2016 election by 2.8 million votes.
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Really don't know what good that does except to piss off half of America 
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It's actually 10 percent of America.
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He only got 10% of the vote????
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Trump got 74 million votes. Only 46 percent of his Party support him now. That is 33 million people.
There are 332 million people in the USA, so only 10 percent of the people in the USA support him.
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Remember that he was not elected by the people, but lost his 2016 election by 2.8 million votes.
Thanks for that reminder FLRW. The truth often hurts.

Trump got 74 million votes. Only 46 percent of his Party support him now. That is 33 million people.
There are 332 million people in the USA, so only 10 percent of the people in the USA support him.
Wow, your batting 500. More kudo's for truth and justice in USA and all around the world.


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I mean, he won the electoral college in 2016. It's a bad system that needs changing, but that is the system used to pick the president. He might now be a disgrace and potentially a traitor, but he still was president. I don't see how this does anything other than intentionally try to piss people off. I don't see how that is constructive. 
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You know that I am really Jesus, don't you?
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A President and his followers that commit crimes against Humanity must be punished.
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If we don't have severe penalties for government officials that commit crimes, we will eventually have a destroyed country.
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“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”
― H.L. Mencken, 1920
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"We've tolerated presidential lies ever since the beginning of the republic," says Professor Eric Alterman, author of Lying In State: Why Presidents Lie - And Why Trump Is Worse.
"But Donald Trump is the Frankenstein's monster of a political system that has not merely tolerated lies from our leaders, but has come to demand them."
Prof Alterman says the Capitol rioters, radicalised by conspiracy theories about stolen elections and satanic cabals, underscore the extent to which Trump inspired the "creation of an entire world of unreality".

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I fully support this, and have it be set in stone that the 2016 Election was illegitimate, as Hillary said.

the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”
The golden years of Biden are here. Hunter for President!
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Wait, Hunter is too poor. Jared for President!. He got $2 billion from the Saudis.
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Hunter got 3 billion from China. Hunter is the apex moron we need.
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A President and his followers that commit crimes against Humanity must be punished.
Ok, a prison sentence is a harsh punishment. Pretending he wasn't president is.... nothing. 

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Trump was a serial violator of his oath—as evidenced by his continual use of his office for personal financial gain—but focusing on three crucial ways in which he betrayed it helps clarify his singular historical status. First, he failed to put the national-security interests of the United States ahead of his own political needs. Second, in the face of a devastating pandemic, he was grossly derelict, unable or unwilling to marshal the requisite resources to save lives while actively encouraging public behavior that spread the disease. And third, held to account by voters for his failures, he refused to concede defeat and instead instigated an insurrection, stirring a mob that stormed the Capitol.

A fitting punishment would be the removal of his name from the Presidential Records.
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And also promote The Atlantic to ministry of truth.
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A fitting punishment would be the removal of his name from the Presidential Records.
I don't particularly disagree with your discussion of his crimes. But how does removing him from the books do anything? We want people to remember him. we want people to know what happens to a criminal president. If you try to wipe out memory of him, people will just do it again.

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Trump got 74 million votes. Only 46 percent of his Party support him now. That is 33 million people.
There are 332 million people in the USA, so only 10 percent of the people in the USA support him.
Your math is way off. First we parse the relevant information:

There were about 249 million adults (18 and older) in the United States during 2016.
Of those 249 million adults, only 231 million were eligible voters in 2016.
About 158 million of those adults were registered to vote. (~63% VAP; 68% VEP) VAP = Voting Age Population; VEP = Voting Eligible Population
About 137 million of those registered voters voted (55% VAP; 59% VEP; 87% RVP) RVP = Registered Voter Population
Trump amassed 63 million votes (25% VAP; 27% VEP; 45% RVP.)

There were about 258 million adults (18 and older) in the United States during 2020.
Of those 258 million, only 240 million were eligible voters in 2020.
About "168" million of those adults were registered to vote. (~65% VAP; 70% VEP)
About "158" million of those voters voted (61% VAP; 66% VEP; 94% RVP)
Trump amassed 74 million votes (28% VAP; 30% VEP; 47% RVP.)

As of the end of 2022, there are 215.5 million registered voters
48 million are affiliated Democrats
42 million are affiliated with Other or No party
37 million are affiliated Republicans

I don't know where you got the "46%" figure from (nothing in my preliminary browsing indicates as much) but Trump is actually quite popular among Republicans even amidst these FBI shenanigans. (If anything, said shenanigans have but only lionized Trump, and galvanized his staunch supporters.) If you're going to incorporate "the numbers" into your argument, then do your due diligence and examine the available information correctly (i.e. sift through extraneous and irrelevant details) otherwise you do your argument a disservice.

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Still, I do find it amazing that 20% of the population decides your country's faith.
Or 30%, if you count just adults and ignore that 15 year old has an opinion too.
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With so many people refusing to vote, can it still be called democracy, rule of majority?
Because it is obviously not rule of majority anymore. Majority is mostly silent.
There is a political game at play to basically bully people into not voting at all.
Pure idiotic political game made people lose trust in the democratic system.
74 million voters who gave us Trump are only 20% of the population. 
Well, 30% if you count only adults, which is almost twice less than majority.
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Still, I do find it amazing that 20% of the population decides your country's faith.
Or 30%, if you count just adults and ignore that 15 year old has an opinion too.
Hence, popular referendum (not the ballot measure) being any form of arbitration or resolution in any social management is absolutely absurd.
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With so many people refusing to vote, can it still be called democracy, rule of majority?
Subjecting the management of one's time, labor, and resources to the coercion of a referendum of any number is still absurd.
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Well, democracy was never about voluntary unions of people. If an individual must serve some system against his will, he is not voluntary part of that system anymore. Voluntary unions are the greatest form of freedom, obviously. Its just hard for people to stop imposing themselves on others. Of course, the advantage of voluntary unions is that person can follow such idea even when only few others do. However, democracy cannot be willingly followed by those unwillingly exploited by majority/voting majority.
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Well, democracy was never about voluntary unions of people. If an individual must serve some system against his will, he is not voluntary part of that system anymore. Voluntary unions are the greatest form of freedom, obviously. Its just hard for [some] people to stop imposing themselves on others. Of course, the advantage of voluntary unions is that person can follow such idea even when only few others do. However, democracy cannor be willingly followed by those unwillingly exploited by majority/voting majority.
Well stated.
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Who would you like to see get the Republican nomination out of the current field?
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Will Hurd
Strengths: He's smart and young, and wants to talk about the future of the party and the country. He also brings diversity as one of two Black men running for the GOP nomination.
Weaknesses: He's largely out of step with where the heart of the Trump-loving GOP is. He called Trump "lawless" in his announcement video, said he should have dropped out after the Access Hollywood tape was made public in 2016 and he criticized the former president after the white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Va., and over his administration's family separation immigration policies. Though Hurd voted for a ban on abortions after 20 weeks, he has also looked for bipartisanship on issues from immigration to LGBTQ rights.
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His biggest weakness is working for the CIA.
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Yes, Hurd worked for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) for nine years, from 2000 to 2009.
Wouldn't that be a good job for a future President?

Oh, you are going to say it is better to have created an online Fake University.