Turley points out that the indictment against Trump is based on limited new evidence and shaky legal grounds
limited evidence? They just turned over more than a million pages of evidence. There are countless witnesses and documentation for his conspiracy. There is a mountain of evidence.
and "shaky grounds" is right wing cope. The grounds are very clear. He and his co-conspirators engaged in a conspiracy to overturn the results of the election. That isn't shaky grounds.
It's about trying to make what Trump said into a crime
you are aware that any charge of fraud or conspiracy is about what someone said right? People go to prison for "what they said" all the time. It isn't uncommon. But that take is also wrong. Conspiracy certainly includes what someone said, as this is part of the conspiracy. But no charge of conspiracy can be laid unless they have taken actions other than just talking.
even though it is likely to be protected by the First Amendment.
this is more right wing cope. Conspiracy is absolutely not protected. It's like this. If you and friends all said "hey, we should rob bank", but all you do it talk, then it's not illegal. That is protected. But if you then go out and get masks and guns, now it is a conspiracy and you are guilty. If all trump did was talk about overturning the election, he would be protected. The moment he and his co-conspirators took steps toward actually doing it (coercing pence, setting up the fake electors etc) they became guilty of conspiracy. So no, the moment they took action in furtherance of the plot, they passed out of protected speech. Any "expert" telling you it is all about what he said and is protected by the 1st amendment is either an idiot or a liar.
The way Trump's words led others to act could also be used against Biden own words doing the same, especially in an impeachment inquiry by Republicans in the House of Representatives.
I really don't see how. The republicans don't have any evidence biden has committed any crime at all. I'm 100% sure they will pretend that biden is the same as trump, they will be lying of course.
Biden has been accused of disregarding the Constitution, such as pushing unconstitutional measures and allegedly lying about his knowledge of his son's overseas business deals.
so he is accused of doing things that are not illegal. and?
There is quite the irony that the legal standards being used against Trump could also be used against Biden, and that could make things very problematic for him.
no, it couldn't. Trump is charged in a conspiracy to overturn an election. Biden isn't charged with anything and the republicans have yet to point to a single specific crime they think he has committed. They just ramble about random "corruption". The other day some republican in congress said they would bring articles of impeachment for drugs and prostitution, despite there never being any evidence biden engaged in either of those things. Bottom line, the impeachment talk against biden is all a political show. There is a decent chance they will never actually impeach him and just drag out an "investigation" until the election, because impeaching him is stupid. And even if they did, it would just help biden because the stupidity of their impeachment will be obvious.
Do you guys think a can of worms has been opened here?
It is absolutely new territory to charge a president with crimes. So in that sense, yes a can of worms has been opened. The idea that this will blow back and work against biden is pretty silly. comparing trump's very real crimes for which he is likely to be convicted to the silly nonsense the republicans are throwing around is just rightwing cope. They know trump is guilty so they have to try and make people think biden is guilty too, despite having no evidence of that.
