A measure sponsored by a woman who worked at a strip club passed Congress today

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The resolution, sponsored by Rep. Anna Paulina Luna (R-Fla.), ( a former stripper) alleges that Schiff “spread false accusations that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia” and abused his privileged access to classified information. It also says that Schiff “behaved dishonestly and dishonorably on many other occasions.”


Republicans are strippers, grifters, divorcees, alcoholics and rapists.

This is the Party of family values and Christian Religion?

Lauren Boebert- dropped out of high school when she became pregnant. Worked as a prostitute, she is now divorced.

Marjorie Taylor Greene- recently divorced 

Anna Paulina Luna - worked at a strip club while on active duty in the Air Force

George Santos - lied repeatedly about his background when running for Congress. Has been known to dress as a woman for drag shows

Donald Trump - recently found liable for sexually assaulting a woman in a dressing room and then lying about it.

Matt Gaetz- lost his license in Florida for DUI and paid a 17 year old for sex while a member of Congress.


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I'm not sure why working at a strip club at some point in your past would somehow disqualify anyone duly elected to legislate. I mean I think most of those people are morons, but really, working at a strip club in one's past is nowhere near the same shit George Santos did. Strip clubs are honest work, man. This country has enough puritans, no reason to clutch pearls over this. I would imagine you're trying to be provocative, but look at this list you wrote. Two of these are actual crimes, the other three are just characteristics. It doesn't dilute the hypocrisy rampant there, but it just seems weird to object to or denigrate. Not everyone grows up working in standard businesses. That's America. 

Republicans are strippers, grifters, divorcees, alcoholics and rapists.

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I'm not sure why working at a strip club at some point in your past would somehow disqualify anyone duly elected to legislate.
Because when you elect someone like Anna Paulina Luna you get the government you deserve. When you elect clowns, you get a circus.

When we elect people who were prostitutes, grifters, strippers, and alcoholics, and these same people go around pointing the finger at gays, trans, and immigrants as immoral and unworthy, you create a house of hypocrisy that can’t possibly stand.

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I'm not sure why working at a strip club at some point in your past would somehow disqualify anyone duly elected to legislate.
Is Anna Luna legislating or performing now? She is giving you the answer to your question.

Think of this. Anna Paulina Luna is sitting in the same room as John Quincy Adams and 

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When we elect people who were prostitutes, grifters, strippers, and alcoholics, and these same people go around pointing the finger at gays, trans, and immigrants as immoral and unworthy, you create a house of hypocrisy that can’t possibly stand.

I don't disagree with the hypocrisy. I disagree with your forum title. Having worked in a strip club in no way disqualifies anyone from doing anything, and whatever you might think of this Florida lady, I would bet a lot of money there are far more concerning things in her character than "used to work in a strip club." Anna Luna was, somehow, duly elected by her constituents, and is doing what she figures they elected her to do. I think it's a waste of time, I think she's a waste of space, but none of that has anything to do with her employment history. Bringing up what people did to make ends meet when they were younger and in a disadvantaged position just seems douchey regardless of what side of the aisle you sit on, if you ask me. 
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Bringing up what people did to make ends meet when they were younger and in a disadvantaged position just seems douchey regardless of what side of the aisle you sit on, if you ask me. 
Think about what strippers do to make ends meet and keep their job. They dance around offering their attention to the people who have the most money not caring about what these people are trying to do. They sell themselves. Then after the song is over, they pick up their dirty money not caring about what they had to do to get it, and they move on to the next interested party, seeking more money. No shame. No integrity, just and overwhelming desire for money and to keep on performing.

Come to think of it, now that I have said it like that, strippers are the perfect candidate to be a politician!

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THat seems a pretty sweeping generalization of strippers, but I guess that's your experience. Or maybe you're making some sort of ironic statement to get to your punchline? What they're doing is legal. Comparing it to rapists is hyperbolic at the very, very least and intellectually dishonest at worst. 
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As a conservative, I am irritated about the rap sheet of some of the reps and senators and even Presidents.  I agree that some do NOT line up with my moral or values.  Full time hypocrites.  These are the kinds of people that destroy America and need to be removed.

However, I disagree with you(surprise) about bringing up someone's past on certain things.  There are situations in people's past that they may regret doing and then later strive to become a better person, such as being a stripper.  Can no one rise above a previous bad decision or must everyone in politics be clean like the "new driven snow"?
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What they're doing is legal. 
Yes, it’s legal. But no parent ever bragged or wished their child would become a stripper.

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later strive to become a better person
That is not what these people are doing.

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THat seems a pretty sweeping generalization of strippers,
You have had a different experience than what I described? Strippers also offer private lap dances and try to get patrons to buy them drinks.

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Ok, I guess, but how's that move your point forward? You know some people strip and enjoy it, right? Also that there wouldn't be strip clubs if there wasn't a demand by paying customers for them. How's that the stripper's problem? They have a product that the market will pay for. That's capitalism. And how does it in any way reflect on their ability to put forth and advance legislation (your agreement or support of which notwithstanding)? To the below, I say "so what"?


You have had a different experience than what I described? Strippers also offer private lap dances and try to get patrons to buy them drinks.

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That is not what these people are doing.
LOL.  I suppose not by becoming a politician.
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Name one stripper who has been a good legislator, state of federal, in the past 200 years.

Why elect military leaders, college professors, successful lawyers, or leading citizens when you can vote for a stripper.
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Name one stripper who has been a good legislator, state of federal, in the past 200 years.
LOL, huh??? You're a little all over the map here. Why would I need to do this? I'm not the one implying that this is a terrible legislator or somehow she shouldn't have been elected because she worked at a strip club. I'm just saying pointing it out and then including it in a list of other verifiable crimes that elected officials have been credibly accused of is douchey and that you have a category error. She was employed legally in a business that is legal. She didn't rape anyone. She might be an idiot, but she's not a criminal, and she's not an idiot BECAUSE SHE WORKED IN A STRIP CLUB. I vehemently disagree with her politics, her proposal, and her buffoonery, but none of those should be based on her employment history or education. This is America. All of those people, even ex convicts, are entitled to run for office, that's how it's supposed to work. I just object to your characterization of strippers, or, more accurately, strip club employees. If this is a bartender at a strip club (she's not worth googling), how's that substantively different from what Ocasio-Cortez did before she was elected to the house? 
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This lady must have lost her husband to a stripper and now she is mad at pretty girls who use their charm for financially benefit. 
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I'm just saying pointing it out and then including it in a list of other verifiable crimes
Oh, that’s not what I was doing. I was listing all the elected Republicans who were unfit for office for one reason or another. It was not a list of criminal Republican elected officials.

She was employed legally in a business that is legal.
Not being a criminal hardly makes a person fit for important leadership positions. It should be one requirement, but the absence of criminal activity doesn’t mean you are qualified to serve. Let’s face it, she got elected because she has nice tits. Why do you think she got elected? What was on her resume that made people vote for her?
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I was listing all the elected Republicans who were unfit for office for one reason or another
Being a former strip club employee does not make you unfit for office on its face though. .

 Let’s face it, she got elected because she has nice tits.
I'd have to see the exit polling. 
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Let’s face it, she got elected because she has nice tits.
Hmmm. . .  Maybe Biden should get some implants.  This may help his run this time around.

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Being a former strip club employee does not make you unfit for office on its face though. .
It’s a pretty could indicator I would say. Although not illegal, unless they also offer sex and drugs at the strip club which is certainly known to occur, being a stripper means you chose to do that for a living instead of something more productive and honorable. Is stripping honorable work in your view? 

and she's not an idiot BECAUSE SHE WORKED IN A STRIP CLUB.
There’s a good chance she’s an idiot. She chose to be a stripper, rather than do something less seedy. It shows she is willing to do anything for money. Not a good quality for elected office where bribery and corruption is always a threat to good government.

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Is stripping honorable work in your view? 
It's honest work, provided people aren't coerced into it. I don't get the issue with it. And was she a stripper? Seems unlikely, otherwise the headlines about her would likely all read "former stripper". Why can't someone choose to do it for a living and still have what it takes to be a legislator, exactly? What's the objection? What's DIShonorable about it? Not every stripper is some lost soul, some are women who think "I'm only going to be hot enough to do this for a handful of years, I like showing off my body, and I can make a TON of money doing it." What exactly in there is some sort of disqualification?

Should anyone who's ever patronized a strip club also be disqualified? They're the ones supplying the demand. 

There’s a good chance she’s an idiot. She chose to be a stripper, rather than do something less seedy. It shows she is willing to do anything for money. 
None of this makes any sense. How do you figure being willing to take off your clothes for money means you'd do "anything" for money? Why is stripping seedier than GOING to a strip club? And what makes you think being a stripper gives someone a good chance at being an idiot, exactly? 
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It's honest work
No, not even that is true. They hustle drinks. They sell drugs. They offer blow jobs in the back. They accept illegal drugs as pay. They have sex with the club owner to get the job. It is not honest work.

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No, not even that is true. They hustle drinks. They sell drugs. They offer blow jobs in the back. They accept illegal drugs as pay. They have sex with the club owner to get the job. It is not honest work.
Wow. I'm going to posit that you have a small sample size you're working with here. Maybe that happens in some places, I guess, but it doesn't happen in all of them. And hustling drinks is suddenly a disqualifier? So any woman who's ever worked some dude she didn't go home and fuck after into buying her a drink isn't fit to serve in the halls of congress? Come on man. What's the answer to the question about if people who go to strip clubs? I mean I guess don't vote for them then, if that's what you think, that's your right. 
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And what makes you think being a stripper gives someone a good chance at being an idiot, exactly? 
I think most strippers have limited options. Either because of their upbringing or the choices they made. Many have drug addictions and some have children when they got pregnant without being married or being financially prepared to have a child. This does not speak well of their judgment. I think it’s a myth that the majority are doing well financially, although there are a few rare exceptions where some do have financial success.

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I'm going to posit that you have a small sample size you're working with here.
Really? How big is your sample size? Are you in the industry? How many strippers do you know personally?

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I think most strippers have limited options. Either because of their upbringing or the choices they made. Many have drug addictions and some have children when they got pregnant without being married or being financially prepared to have a child. This does not speak well of their judgment.
Fine, but none of this, including the part about the judgement, is necessarily indicative of being an idiot. Some might see it as grit, taking limited options available and making the best of it. I don't know how you're deciding that "many" have drug addictions, and "some have children without being financially prepared" can be said of literally every profession that ever employed a woman. That's what happens when you have unprotected sex, being a stripper has nothing to do with that. And young people make bad decisions, that doesn't make them idiots necessarily. 

Really? How big is your sample size? Are you in the industry? How many strippers do you know personally?
I'm not the one throwing around sweeping generalizations about a profession. 
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So any woman who's ever worked some dude she didn't go home and fuck after into buying her a drink isn't fit to serve in the halls of congress?
Perhaps you aren’t aware of the scam. They go around the bar after their dance set, asking guys to buy them a drink. The guy pays $10 for her to have a drink with little or no alcohol in it, making a good profit for the bar owner. It’s a little dishonest, not a huge deal. They are hustlers. There job is to get money out of the patrons pockets.
Again, this may actually prepare them for a career in politics now that I think of it. Politicians are worse than whores. And they both have zero integrity in many cases.

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is necessarily indicative of being an idiot
So you think having poor judgment and being an idiot are two different things? I think they are the same.

If I had a family member, say a brother-in-law who was always demonstrating poor judgment, I think I would refer to him as my idiot brother in law.

I don't know how you're deciding that "many" have drug addictions, and "some have children without being financially prepared" can be said of literally every profession that ever employed a woman.
Care to restate this? It makes no sense.

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They go around the bar after their dance set, asking guys to buy them a drink. The guy pays $10 for her to have a drink with little or no alcohol in it, making a good profit for the bar owner. It’s a little dishonest, not a huge deal.
What about this strikes you as dishonest on the stripper's part?
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What about this strikes you as dishonest on the stripper's part?
It’s a hustle. The guy thinks they are sharing a drink and he’s paying for a mixed drink with alcohol in it which has more value than say a coke. But there’s no rum in that rum n coke. It’s a hustle.