"teen shot after accidentally" the next liberal psy-op

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Terns shot after accidentally getting into wrong ca.


This is the next liberal psy op to remove people's rights of self defense. They are searching hard for stories they can label "accidental after mundane mistake"

Neither of these work but eventually they may find a few mundane ones that do. Of course the liberal media won't use statistics or academic arguments to support their position. Instead they focus on cherry picked incidents.

The kid accidentally entering the wrong house after everyone in the house is asleep is mislabeled as a kid knocking. 

The other one was not a person pissed at what he thought was a car thief. It was a guy who was shooting at a different car that was taking off after they realized their mistake and at a point where the guy knew it was a mistake. 

So we have one incident that is most likely a legitimate misunderstanding and another one that is just some asshole. (Until the rest of the stories appear anyway, if they ever do)
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When you are searching for conclusions, you will find them eventually. 

So yes, when someone concludes "guns are bad" and keeps searching for anything that supports such conclusion, eventually he will find plenty of support for his conclusion. From obvious lies to exaggerated stories.

However, in his search, he will also miss all the reasons why we need guns.
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The kid accidentally entering the wrong house after everyone in the house is asleep is mislabeled as a kid knocking. 
That’s a lie.

Just like the one about Paul Pelosi attacked by his gay lover.

Reality isn’t binding to MAGA morons

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Bo some 85 year old man that has been a law abiding citizen his entire life saw somebody knocking on the door and randomly shot him even though UPS drivers are there every other day, some black and he doesn't just randomly shoot at them. 

This is why leftists are retarded. The story they tell themselves is it is more likely somebody merely knocked on the door and instead of the owner calmly saying "wrong house", the kid politely stood there and was randomly shot. They think that is more realistic than even a possible innocent mistake like he opened the door because he thought he was at a house that typically doesn't mind people opening the door and coming in. 

This is without adding malice to either side. If the 85 yr old law abiding citizen was really what retards like Roosevelt is painting him as, he would be committing a mass shooting in a predominantly black area of town. To think this guy was randomly looking to shoot black people but just ignored the 3 black guys a week that knocked on his door for the past 15 years and target a teen with the wrong address. 

This is a retard level theory
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Bo some 85 year old man that has been a law abiding citizen his entire life saw somebody knocking on the door and randomly shot him even though UPS drivers are there every other day, some black and he doesn't just randomly shoot at them. 
Doesn’t your asshole get stretched out from talking out of it all the time?

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Firstly, I'm surprised that people read or listen to any news media at all. There have been so many eye-opening moments for people to realize that media, of all wings, is full of baloney and will twist and distort anything to fit a narrative/compelling news story. Trump's election seemed like an absolute miracle, after all the "polls" and opinions made it seem like Hillary Clinton was a shoe-in, yet he won comfortably. Young people can remember Pewdiepie and how the media made him out to be an ardent neo-Nazi, all because he joked about Hitler and Jews a bit. Recently, we had Covid-19 spun lock-step as a wetmarket occurrence by all media outlets initially, with places like Facebook outright banning anyone who said "lab leak", until all media had to walk that back to admitting it might be a lab leak because the wetmarket story was so obviously wrong. So, in context of these newsarticles, I don't trust either of those stories to be told accurately at all.

Secondly, it's a failing of humanity that anecdotes are more effective at swaying the masses than empirical data. Even if the stories are true, that doesn't mean there should be nation-wide reform on gun control, all because a couple of stories had people using guns irresponsibly to murder people. It's such a basic, stupid mistake.

Thirdly, self-defense is such a fundamental part of human psychology that no amount of psy-ops is going to remove that key evolutionary adaption. If you take away people's ability to defend themselves, they're quickly going to realize that they can't defend themselves, and this will make them very upset at a visceral level. That visceral emotion will inspire them to defend themselves regardless of the law, or retreat into an avoidant personality disorder (fight or flight). 

Finally, we're talking about America wherein a lot of the population loves their guns and the freedom to use them. They're not going to roll over and give up the guns when they passionately believe it is their constitutional right.

If this is a "liberal psy-op", it doesn't have any chance of succeeding. 
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yet he won comfortably
That’s a lie. He won by a total margin of 80,000 votes in 3 states and he actually lost the overall popular vote.

all because a couple of stories had people using guns irresponsibly to murder people
A couple of stories? There have been a couple of stories in the last couple days. There have been 34 mass shootings just in the month of April and it’s only the 19th.

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Of course the liberal media won't use statistics or academic arguments to support their position. Instead they focus on cherry picked incidents.
You mean they don't even present arguments, they just report the news?

Wow, talk about dastardly, it really is a vast liberal conspiracy.
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yet he won comfortably
That’s a lie. He won by a total margin of 80,000 votes in 3 states and he actually lost the overall popular vote.
The United States presidential election is determined by electoral votes, not close states or popular vote. 

Donald Trump won 304 electoral votes compared to Hillary Clinton's 227 -- a comfortable victory.

The information is easily accessible on Wikipedia 2016 United States presidential election - Wikipedia 
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Bo some 85 year old man that has been a law abiding citizen his entire life saw somebody knocking on the door and randomly shot him even though UPS drivers are there every other day, some black and he doesn't just randomly shoot at them. 

This is why leftists are retarded. The story they tell themselves is it is more likely somebody merely knocked on the door and instead of the owner calmly saying "wrong house", the kid politely stood there and was randomly shot. They think that is more realistic than even a possible innocent mistake like he opened the door because he thought he was at a house that typically doesn't mind people opening the door and coming in. 

This is without adding malice to either side. If the 85 yr old law abiding citizen was really what retards like Roosevelt is painting him as, he would be committing a mass shooting in a predominantly black area of town. To think this guy was randomly looking to shoot black people but just ignored the 3 black guys a week that knocked on his door for the past 15 years and target a teen with the wrong address. 

This is a retard level theory
OMG, just reading this made my IQ go down twenty points.

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No shit Sherlock, but had 80,000 votes gone the other way, Clinton would have won the electoral college. BTW, Biden had 304 electoral votes in 2020 but Trump said he won the election in a landslide.
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all because a couple of stories had people using guns irresponsibly to murder people
A couple of stories? There have been a couple of stories in the last couple days. There have been 34 mass shootings just in the month of April and it’s only the 19th.

The OP referred to a couple of stories, so that's what I referenced.

In any case, I'm not sure all of these citings constitute "mass shootings" in the colloquial sense that the public understands, the one wherein perpetrator(s) intentionally set out to shoot up a place. It's entirely possible that a number of these shootings were performed in self-defense against criminals, and thus would constitute a good result.

Don't get me wrong: mass shootings, wherein innocent people are shot, are bad, but punishing law abiding citizens for the offences of criminals, thereby further harming a law abiding citizen's ability to defend themselves (and overthrow a corrupt government, too), isn't a sensible solution. There will always be criminals and they are the problem ultimately, not the guns. A gun in the hands of a law-abiding citizen is never a problem. Laws would be better off targeting criminals and would be criminals.

No shit Sherlock, but had 80,000 votes gone the other way, Clinton would have won the electoral college.
Relax.

80,000 votes isn't a low number lol. It sure it a lot more than the landslide Clinton victory all the legacy media was predicting. 

BTW, Biden had 304 electoral votes in 2020 but Trump said he won the election in a landslide.
This isn't relevant to what we are talking about.
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80,000 votes isn't a low number 
In the context of 150 million votes cast in that election it certainly is

It's entirely possible that a number of these shootings were performed in self-defense against criminals,
Gee, if only someone or some organization tracked these events so we could know the circumstances of each shooting 

Even if the stories are true, that doesn't mean there should be nation-wide reform on gun control, all because a couple of stories had people using guns irresponsibly to murder people. It's such a basic, stupid mistake.
You claimed we shouldn’t have gun reform because of a couple of stories. Surely you’re aware there have been many many shootings besides these two cited by the OP
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80,000 votes isn't a low number 
In the context of 150 million votes cast in that election it certainly is
That is an incorrect context to observe the number in as that would be a popular vote winning margin, not an electoral vote winning margin (again, the United States has the electoral vote system). The correct context is the winning margin in each individual state. For example, and this is purely hypothetical, if the winning margin was only 40,000 votes in Hawaii, and yet only 100,000 people voted, that's not even close.

But you're free to demonstrate at any time how close it was, if you're up for it.

It's entirely possible that a number of these shootings were performed in self-defense against criminals,
Gee, if only someone or some organization tracked these events so we could know the circumstances of each shooting 
There is no overall tally of circumstances involved in all shootings on that website, and clicking the individual links is rather time-consuming (especially to discover that the perpetrator is currently unknown).

Again, you're free to demonstrate that these "mass shootings" were all done illegally and not in self-defense, since that's what you are claiming.
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6-year-old girl and her parents were shot around 7:45 p.m. Tuesday near their home in Gastonia, North Carolina, after entering their neighbor's yard to retrieve a basketball, police said.

This never would have happened if there were just more guns.

Guns don't kill people, basketballs rolling into a yard kills people.

More guns, more guns, more guns!
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You mean they don't even present arguments, they just report the news?
They are trying to present an argument in a sneaky way. News should just be reporting of facts in as dry and uninteresting way as possible and unbiased as well. They certainly shouldn't be cherry picking stories
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6-year-old girl and her parents were shot around 7:45 p.m. Tuesday near their home in Gastonia, North Carolina, after entering their neighbor's yard to retrieve a basketball, police said.
See what I mean?

Nobody is seeing a 6 year old innocently entering their yard for a basketball and going "derp I would like to spend life. In prison because a 6 year old is grabbing a basketball derp"

What's the real story here?
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OMG, just reading this made my IQ go down twenty points.

DebateArt should institute Supidity Warnings to protect us from posts like this.
That is literally just me presenting Roosevelt's point of view. Don't like it talk to him about it. 
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That is an incorrect context to observe the number in as that would be a popular vote winning margin, not an electoral vote winning margin (again, the United States has the electoral vote system).
If someone won a state by one vote, thus winning all that’s state electoral votes, which is how it works in all but Nebraska and Maine, would you say that person won that state decisively or it was a very narrow victory? And if they won all 50 states by one vote each thus sweeping the electoral college except for a couple votes , would you say the victory was comfortable or very narrow? Use your brain to answer.

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That is literally just me presenting Roosevelt's point of view. Don't like it talk to him about it. 
Aren’t you the loser that tried to put together a boycott of my posts? You can’t do anything right. That’s why you work as a night shift manager at Dennys.

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I previously worked as a general manager of a wendy's and an assistant manager at a diner. 

I am not sure why you see it as an insult to mention people have worked in food service. Most likely due to you being a racist since it is mostly poor and minorities that do work in food service. 
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Here is another story that is hitting primetime news within the same psy-op program

Woman shot after friend pulls into wrong driveway

https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/18/us/woman-shot-wrong-driveway-upstate-new-york/index.html


My prediction is this accidental shooting after mundane mistake narrative will continue for the next 3 months while literally nobody notices or gives a shit about the medias intentional distortions. 
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I am not sure why you see it as an insult to mention people have worked in food service. Most likely due to you being a racist since it is mostly poor and minorities that do work in food service. 
So how is it that a white guy has a job that is predominantly held by disadvantaged peoples?  Were you held back by institutional racism? Are you a recent immigrant arrival? What happened?

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medias intentional distortions. 
What distortions exactly? The ones imagined in your pea brain?

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Nobody is seeing a 6 year old innocently entering their yard for a basketball and going "derp I would like to spend life. In prison because a 6 year old is grabbing a basketball derp"
No, they are saying - derp stand my ground! derp the law says I can shoot anyone who comes on my property! derp I’m a republican stand my ground I don’t need to be in fear to shoot someone, derp

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So how is it that a white guy has a job that is predominantly held by disadvantaged peoples?  
Oh, I applied for it.

Were you held back by institutional racism? Are you a recent immigrant arrival? What happened?
Not sure what you mean. Do you look down on people who serve you food because they are predominantly black or something?

Is this why you think the job is less than respectable, because you are a racist?
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I can shoot anyone who comes on my property!
Yeah no, I dont think there is such law. Who even says that?
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That is an incorrect context to observe the number in as that would be a popular vote winning margin, not an electoral vote winning margin (again, the United States has the electoral vote system).
If someone won a state by one vote, thus winning all that’s state electoral votes, which is how it works in all but Nebraska and Maine, would you say that person won that state decisively or it was a very narrow victory? And if they won all 50 states by one vote each thus sweeping the electoral college except for a couple votes , would you say the victory was comfortable or very narrow? Use your brain to answer.
What you've presented here isn't analogous to what you originally wrote. You presented a popular vote number (80,000) that was representative of 3 states, not broken down individually like you've done with your new example.

If you want to present the three states, the split within those states, and how the margin within those states was extremely low, please feel free to start any time.


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If you want to present the three states, the split within those states, and how the margin within those states was extremely low, please feel free to start any time.
Please feel free to start using critical thinking skills any time IF you are able. 


“The most important states, though, were Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Trump won those states by 0.2, 0.7 and 0.8 percentage points, respectively — and by 10,704, 46,765 and 22,177 votes. Those three wins gave him 46 electoral votes”

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If you want to present the three states, the split within those states, and how the margin within those states was extremely low, please feel free to start any time.
Please feel free to start using critical thinking skills any time IF you are able. 


“The most important states, though, were Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Trump won those states by 0.2, 0.7 and 0.8 percentage points, respectively — and by 10,704, 46,765 and 22,177 votes. Those three wins gave him 46 electoral votes”
I'm glad I educated you on why your original argument didn't prove what you think it did.

But sure, nothing wrong with the data you presented now (finally). It's a narrower margin than the electoral votes suggested -- I'll give you that.