Ethang5

What happened to him? And why?

Even I agree here, what really did he do to deserve such a longer ban than fucking GOLDTOP or you?

I get the ban, I don't get the length vs the length of the 2 of you who intentionally, regularly provoke him.

He was banned for making personal attacks. He will be back soon.

Thank you.

@mad

What exactly are you agreeing with?

The ban making next to no sense given other factors and lack of bans and duration elsewhere in relation to it.

@mad

And where did you see that in order that you agree with it?

In the tone of the rhetorical question of the thread's OP.

Actually he said he won't be back. I think he was disappointed at the ban. I've kinda gotten tired of this moderation bashing personally bc i have better things to do irl... but, he's another i don't agree with. You are banning people with this type of personality that we have come to accept over years of interacting with said person. Everyone knows how he acts, and we still engage bc deep down we have probably come to respect said person's resolve. At least, that's how it is for me. All i can say is you'll destroy the site if you keep banning people that are the most active and usually get people involved. It's a dangerous game this site is playing. It's expecting a little more comfort but sacrificing community for that comfort. It's honestly sickening to me bc i have thick skin and i can handle it... and not only that, the internet is the best place to practice dealing with humans that are like the opposition that offends you. It's seems this site wants to bury its head in the sand and pretend offense isn't part of this world. I can understand higher offenses that are malicious... but i would still not want a person banned if it's done within context. If it's malicious and done without any provocation... then i think it deserves a ban. That's how DDO was. That's how most sites with the highest amounts of users are. Bc that's life. People get better for it and i 100% believe that. It's really up to you how you do what you do. Since i am stuck using this site i will use it anyways. But understand, it will be really easy for me to leave this site bc of issues like this. I feel the more you moderate too much, the easier it will be for everyone to leave once another platform becomes viable and in the spotlight. So i guess this is a warning to you and like i said a dangerous game this sites playing at, so i hope Mike reads it as well. He may come back, he may not... all i can say, if not, than that will be a big blow to the site. Hopefully he changes his mind. This site honestly seems like there is more drama bc of this over moderation bw users themselves and in general. The irony.   

@mad

The questions were in no way rhetorical and there was no tone. You made a post publicly declaring that you agree with what you think. woopy.

I am sad to hear he won't be back, though he'll be able to if he wants. His posts are often interesting and insightful. That said, I disagree with your point of view. I am not going to give breaks to people because they are naturally cantankerous; it's their job to be aware of that and to manage it within the limits of the COC (which is not much to ask). But, I am aware that there is a concern about overmoderation, and that is something which needs to continue to be addressed.

But you sure are laissez-faire on the ones intentionally provoking said people in calculated, repetitive strikes that are themselves toxic yeah? Nice one.

In response.

Your hero exposed.

Context always matters.

As I said: Exposed.

Yeah you know what, ethang wouldn't be defending my honour here so why the fuck should I be defending his?

Do what you want, I admit the guy's toxic on a regular basis and not in a funny nor in a 'for good reasons' way either. I do, however, think he's being intentionally preyed on by 3 specific members and that all 3 should be banned. I can say that but I can't name them in this same message because that will be a mod-action-threat.

@mad

Ooh when the hunter becomes the hunted it is time of great fear and irrational lashing out, which culminates in a ban and wailing and gnashing of teeth.

I am unsure if you are referring to him or myself and if it's me what the fuck are you referring to? Even in my old RM days of DDO I never was the 'hunter who got hunted' I don't 'go for' people and run them off the site. That's the MO of the only enemy of mine ruthless enough to think he could win long-term against me and who was lucky enough to actually believe he had thanks to a Mod that was infatuated with him at the time.

You have very much to learn if you think RM is one to lash out irrationally too but you are correct that originally RM did at times not quite calculate his aggression all that much. When I say 'originally' I am talking 4+ years back.

I'm sick of trying to teach reading comprehension on this site.

Does it matter? 

And why do you care?

I can’t think of a more fitting or ironic tribute to Ethangs ban, than this thread:  someone making a particular claim about his ban - that claim being disproven with hard evidence - then the person making the claim doubling down and dismissed all the evidence. It’s like a microcosm

I asked two questions. What is your problem?

What claims?

I already miss him. It just won't be the same without him.

The real question here is why you only got banned 2 days?

I'm curious, after reading the contents of post #13 here and the many vile posts just like it from Ethan, what exactly do you miss?

I know he was a controversial member, but most of the people I saw him attack were controversial members themselves, to put it lightly. But I'll miss his posts which could be quite interesting, his presence as a strong theist and conservative personality, because I like hearing a strong voice from the other side, the times we joked around, and the discussions we had.

Uhhhhh... oookkkaaayyy...

*shakes head in utter confusion*

As I said, you have much to learn if you think that was irrational.