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The people of the United States of America, are supposed to run the government. We have the constitutional right, to run the government, and our country. Yet as of right now, it seems like the government is running us. We already know they are listening to our every conversation. They have started to track our every move. They have become more powerful than the people, and no one is doing anything about it, because we are blinded by "it's for your safety" speeches. 

The people are supposed to know everything about the government, and the government is supposed to know nothing about the people. 
The media is supposed to produce the facts, and we are supposed to make our own opinions off of it. 

Yet this has been switched up so much, to where we don't know if the media is misinforming us, or how much the government knows about our lives. 
Still, we do nothing about it though. 

This misinformation and corruption, comes from both sides of the political isle (more or less the democratic) but still, it comes from both sides. 

We shouldn't put labels on ourselves like republican, democrat, conservatives, liberal. We should put the only label that we constitutionally have, and that is the American label. 

Thoughts?
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That distrust is what I am hoping increases. It's a nice set up to me using a populist platform of shutting down borders and giving everyone free money through a basic minimum income 

Such a strategy could help me win 45 states and once I am in power, once I control the hearts of 70% of the military, the Senate , Congress etc. 

I will stamp out my political enemies. Think about it, if they weren't for me than they were for the establishment. A group of obviously corrupt and evil politicians and the deep state. They would need to be executed. 

Seeing as how I would in no way know how deep the corruption goes, we would need to suspend all elections until the country should be sure we have erased the evil illuminati influence from all vestiges of the state. 

I will make sure your country never ever deals with that type of corruption again.

I will set up a program where neighbors watch neighbors for signs of disloyalty, where kids watch parents for disloyalty. We will rid the country of all the evil traitors op described the effects of. We will have the ultimate utopia and on my death bed, if we have not succeeded in executing or putting the entire cabal in containment facilities to stop the spread of their evil, well then I know my son is dedicated to ridding the country of those people as well, and I will appoint him as your next benevolent leader. 
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Yet as of right now, it seems like the government is running us.
The central problem in our government is the incentive structure. On a broad scale, people will always act within their personal best interests. Being a politician in our modern world is lucrative, not because of good governance but because of all the deals and access one can get in return for their time “served”. So their incentive to get into high power roles is already problematic, but then with election every few years and unlimited terms our elected representatives are set up to care more about their own personal fortunes than the legacy they will leave behind.

I think we desperately need term limits for all of congress. I don’t think it would ever work in a practical sense and it sure as hell would never pass an actual vote but imagine a House of Representatives with 2 year term limits. It would be nothing but a fresh congress every cycle, and every single one would be maximally motivated to accomplish something real for the people they were elected to serve before their one term is up. There would be no self serving reason to run because there would be no future in it.

The media is supposed to produce the facts, and we are supposed to make our own opinions off of it.

Yet this has been switched up so much, to where we don't know if the media is misinforming us, or how much the government knows about our lives.
Still, we do nothing about it though.
Why do right wingers always talk about “the media” as if it was a person with an agenda, as opposed to a conglomerate with a spectrum of views and motivations?

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Man just explained what happened in Nazi Germany. 
Same thing is happening here. 
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Why do right wingers always talk about “the media” as if it was a person with an agenda, as opposed to a conglomerate with a spectrum of views and motivations?
Why don't you guys understand when we say the media?
The media means information that is meant to inform the public about things. 

There is corruption in the media on both sides of the political isle. The media is misinforming people.
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The people of the United States of America, are supposed to run the government. We have the constitutional right, to run the government, and our country. Yet as of right now, it seems like the government is running us. We already know they are listening to our every conversation. They have started to track our every move. They have become more powerful than the people, and no one is doing anything about it, because we are blinded by "it's for your safety" speeches. 
Yeah kid, the government is the enemy, maybe you right wing extremists should have an insurrection.  Oh wait, you already tried that.  Well, maybe you could try voter suppression, oh wait, you already tried that too. Overthrow elections, nope, already tried that too. 

The people are supposed to know everything about the government, and the government is supposed to know nothing about the people. 
The media is supposed to produce the facts, and we are supposed to make our own opinions off of it. 
Or…call the facts we don’t like fake news, and we are supposed to make up conspiracy theories and “alternative facts”.

Yet this has been switched up so much, to where we don't know if the media is misinforming us, or how much the government knows about our lives. 
Still, we do nothing about it though. 
LOL, a call to action to attack the media?  You want to put the media under your authoritarian control because, well because that’s just what authoritarians do.

This misinformation and corruption, comes from both sides of the political isle (more or less the democratic) but still, it comes from both sides. 

We shouldn't put labels on ourselves like republican, democrat, conservatives, liberal. We should put the only label that we constitutionally have, and that is the American label. 
This is the right wing trying to pull the wool over our eyes, like a white supremacist telling the bald-faced lie that White Supremacy doesn’t exist.  
 
You are all about labels and divisiveness, you don’t think the “LGBTQ” community are just Americans, “people of color” are just Americans, “non-Christians” are just Americans, “Socialist Democrats” are just Americans, the “them” of your “us/them” thinking are just Americans, of course you don’t, you lie.

Thoughts?
You are a typical right wing pathological liar trying to “sell” your hostility towards any American that is different.  Nobody is fooled by your hypocrisy.
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"This media is the enemy of democracy" is a correct statement.

Media is not owned by the public. Even the very "open to public" form of media like YouTube is subject to certain selection. For example, very important videos sometimes have very little views, while "cat videos" have millions of view.

If we are looking at very selective media like CNN, we can see that they are pushing the same views on citizens over and over.

People working in media are supposed to give you facts, not their opinions or the opinions of their guests.

Most people will blindly believe the large amount of things media tells them.

The whole point of democracy is citizens using their reason to make a judgment. That might be difficult to achieve, because the difference between "education" and "indoctrination" is too complicated to be understood properly by average citizen.
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Why do right wingers always talk about “the media” as if it was a person with an agenda, as opposed to a conglomerate with a spectrum of views and motivations?
Media seems to have a pro establishment bias. Which ultimately is a left wing bias as the democrats want to increase the size and scope of the establishment.
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Yeah kid, the government is the enemy, maybe you right wing extremists should have an insurrection.  Oh wait, you already tried that.  Well, maybe you could try voter suppression, oh wait, you already tried that too. Overthrow elections, nope, already tried that too. 
I'm not an extremist. I even openly said in my first post that this is coming from both of the political sides. 

Or…call the facts we don’t like fake news, and we are supposed to make up conspiracy theories and “alternative facts”.
No, its taking things that happened, and the media is putting there bias on it. It's not supposed to be biased by the media. That's the peoples job. Censorship is something that the democrats are famous at doing, showing only what they want the public to see, and not the things that pose a threat to their views. You wanna talk about not liking news? You are being hypocritical.

LOL, a call to action to attack the media?  You want to put the media under your authoritarian control because, well because that’s just what authoritarians do.
Nope. the media should give out the information, and facts, and the people should decide what to make of it. Political bias shouldn't come from the media, it should come from the people. George Washington said the political party's would be the downfall of the USA. He wasn't far off. 

This is the right wing trying to pull the wool over our eyes, like a white supremacist telling the bald-faced lie that White Supremacy doesn’t exist.  
 
You are all about labels and divisiveness, you don’t think the “LGBTQ” community are just Americans, “people of color” are just Americans, “non-Christians” are just Americans, “Socialist Democrats” are just Americans, the “them” of your “us/them” thinking are just Americans, of course you don’t, you lie.
You call me a racist, sexist, homophobe, transphobe, white supremacist, just because of what I am saying? What have I said that indicated any of that? No. It's just you doing exactly what the media and this generation is doing, and trying to censor me, because you don't like what I am saying, because it poses a threat to your ego. It's not going to work on this website, because this is an open discussion buddy. What happens when you can't answer any more of my questions?

Yes, people of color, non-Christians, the LGBTQ+ community, and some Democrats are true Americans. The only non-Americans living in America today, are the people who say they hate America, yet live lavishly off of the country the so very much loath. 

You are a typical right wing pathological liar trying to “sell” your hostility towards any American that is different.  Nobody is fooled by your hypocrisy.
You seem frightened and threatened by a 16 year old, talking about free speech and America. Now why is that?
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You know it is BS propaganda when any official starts out with "Experts say..."
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The people of the United States of America, are supposed to run the government. We have the constitutional right, to run the government, and our country. Yet as of right now, it seems like the government is running us.
As of right now? This has been happening since this nation's inception. And that's because they can use "democracy" as a facilitator to undermine individual liberties; hence, "running us."

The people are supposed to know everything about the government, and the government is supposed to know nothing about the people. 
The media is supposed to produce the facts, and we are supposed to make our own opinions off of it. 

Yet this has been switched up so much, to where we don't know if the media is misinforming us, or how much the government knows about our lives. 
Still, we do nothing about it though. 
Interesting how they conceal their true agendas by claiming discretion in the name of "public security" or "national defense."

This misinformation and corruption, comes from both sides of the political isle (more or less the democratic) but still, it comes from both sides. 

We shouldn't put labels on ourselves like republican, democrat, conservatives, liberal.
Because "Democrat" and "Republican" are merely two factors in a dialectic that provides the illusion of choice.

We should put the only label that we constitutionally have, and that is the American label. 

Thoughts?
You don't need a constitution to know who or what you are. Just a rational conscience.
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You seem frightened and threatened by a 16 year old, talking about free speech and America. Now why is that?
Yes, I'm afraid you are going to bore me to death with all your right wing drivel.
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This has been happening since this nation's inception. And that's because they can use "democracy" as a facilitator to undermine individual liberties; hence, "running us."
This is because Democracy is objectively a flagrant system of a "might makes right" form of government that has only the constitution to keep the tyranny against the minority in check.
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Why don't you guys understand when we say the media?
The media means information that is meant to inform the public about things. 
I’m explaining to you what the media actually is.

Again, it’s a conglomerate. It includes everything from OANN to MSNBC to talk radio to even podcast networks. Information comes from many different places but you know where all of it ultimately comes from? Other people. So as long as there is corruption and dishonesty among people, there will be corruption and dishonesty in the media along with every other industry on earth.

The key here is to gain basic media literacy so you can tell when someone is selling you a bunch of bull. Like when Tucker Carlson pretends he’s “just asking questions” while the answers he pretends to seek are available to anyone with a computer and a phone line.

Disinformation has only gotten worse with technology now that anyone anywhere can say whatever they want and have it read by millions without any checks. Pointing to the media is a waste of time, the biggest problem we have as a society right now is that people do not get their information from reputable outlets anymore. Unless we start teaching media literacy and basic critical thinking our future is not looking very bright.
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Media seems to have a pro establishment bias. Which ultimately is a left wing bias as the democrats want to increase the size and scope of the establishment.
Establishment… as in whatever has been established.

Yes, I agree. What we as a society have been able to establish over the past few centuries and decades does tend to tilt leftward, because that’s how reason, logic and common sense tend to tilt. 
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Again, it’s a conglomerate. It includes everything from OANN to MSNBC to talk radio to even podcast networks. Information comes from many different places but you know where all of it ultimately comes from? Other people. So as long as there is corruption and dishonesty among people, there will be corruption and dishonesty in the media along with every other industry on earth.
Your right. Let me rephrase. Mainstream media is producing misinformation. 

The key here is to gain basic media literacy so you can tell when someone is selling you a bunch of bull. Like when Tucker Carlson pretends he’s “just asking questions” while the answers he pretends to seek are available to anyone with a computer and a phone line.
And when CNN "accidentally cuts out" every time Christianity is brought up. 
There is bias on both sides. That is what I am calling out. 
AGAIN, I am calling out BOTH sides of the political isle. Mostly the Democrats, but Republicans too. 

Disinformation has only gotten worse with technology now that anyone anywhere can say whatever they want and have it read by millions without any checks. Pointing to the media is a waste of time, the biggest problem we have as a society right now is that people do not get their information from reputable outlets anymore. Unless we start teaching media literacy and basic critical thinking our future is not looking very bright.
And whos gonna teach you that? 
The media?
See the problem here?
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AGAIN, I am calling out BOTH sides of the political isle
I know you're still in school, but jesus christ man, it's an AISLE. You've done it twice. 

And when CNN "accidentally cuts out" every time Christianity is brought up. 
Yes, Christianity, the largest religion in America, the cards are really stacked against it. 

And whos gonna teach you that? 
The media?
See the problem here?
"The media" is not a teaching tool. Critical thinking is critical thinking, I hope your school offers a course on it. Not a coarse. 
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Yes, Christianity, the largest religion in America, the cards are really stacked against it. 
They truly are. 

"The media" is not a teaching tool. Critical thinking is critical thinking, I hope your school offers a course on it. Not a coarse. 
Tell that to this new generation that is learning things all online these days. Even the teachers are learning off of online. What are you going to do about that?
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Tell that to this new generation that is learning things all online these days. 
"Online" = "The Media"?

I did tell this new generation. You're the new generation. What are you talking about, what am I going to do about people using the greatest information tool humanity has ever known?
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Freedom and personal responsibility isn't for everyone. The vast majority cant comprehend or handle it. Thus they vote for dictatorial tyrants to lead them thru life by the nose. The thought of suffering consequences for poor life decisions and actually having to pay for and suffer because of those poor choices just doesn't register in most peoples brains. They are all just victims and need a mommy govt to bail them out of everything. Entitlement and tyranny go hand in hand.
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What a sad, weird little boy you are.

There is corruption in the media on both sides of the political isle. The media is misinforming people.
The media you consume, FOX News, OAN, blogs are is misinforming you.  But that’s because you’re a dummy.
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He’s learning a lot in his hayseed school, isn’t he?
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Reality has a well known liberal bias.
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Censorship is something that the democrats are famous at doing, showing only what they want the public to see, 
Yes, they want you to see facts, and reality instead of nonsense and conspiracy theories. Nonsense is what conservatives thrive on, including religion.

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Your right. Let me rephrase. Mainstream media is producing misinformation. 
And how did you reach that conclusion? Because Fox News said so?

And when CNN "accidentally cuts out" every time Christianity is brought up. 
There is bias on both sides. That is what I am calling out. 
AGAIN, I am calling out BOTH sides of the political isle. Mostly the Democrats, but Republicans too. 
Every time, or one time that you are aware of? Either way I’m sure you aren’t seriously comparing a segment which cut off, for which there are multiple possible explanations far simpler than some concerted effort to shy away from talking about Christianity - an explanation that itself makes no sense, to the example of Tucker Carlson - a guy whose own lawyers argued cannot be believed, using basic logical fallacies on a nightly basis to spread obvious propaganda.

And this is the number one program on all of cable news.

No, the two sides are not remotely the same, and it’s not the democrats who pose the bigger problem.

And whos gonna teach you that? 
The media?
No, it should be taught in school, far before most people develop an interest in politics with the hope that they use the lessons they learn to guide them as they decide what they stand for.

It would never happen though, if any significant number of schools across the country started teaching this I guarantee the political right would start calling it indoctrination of their children and freak out just like they did over CRT. Because nearly anyone with a solid understanding of critical thinking and media literacy would be able to easily tell that right wing media is nothing but nonsense propaganda.
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Freedom and personal responsibility isn't for everyone. The vast majority cant comprehend or handle it. Thus they vote for dictatorial tyrants to lead them thru life by the nose. The thought of suffering consequences for poor life decisions and actually having to pay for and suffer because of those poor choices just doesn't register in most peoples brains. They are all just victims and need a mommy govt to bail them out of everything. Entitlement and tyranny go hand in hand.
You tagged me with the above but your post was clearly meant for someone else since nothing you said had anything to do with the media and/or media literacy.
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Hmmmm.

You seem to be overlooking the fact that the Government are "People of the United States of America".

It's just that you are not an American person who is a member of the Government.

I'm sorry to have to tell you, that it's just how a society works.

Could be the USA could be Russia, which would you prefer?

If you want to run the USA, then you should have done better at school.

Or have a go and put yourself forwards for your next local election.

You're probably not ready yet for Senator or President.

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Every time, or one time that you are aware of? Either way I’m sure you aren’t seriously comparing a segment which cut off, for which there are multiple possible explanations far simpler than some concerted effort to shy away from talking about Christianity - an explanation that itself makes no sense, to the example of Tucker Carlson - a guy whose own lawyers argued cannot be believed, using basic logical fallacies on a nightly basis to spread obvious propaganda.

And this is the number one program on all of cable news.

No, the two sides are not remotely the same, and it’s not the democrats who pose the bigger problem.
Really?? You really think Republicans are the ones who pose a bigger threat to misinformation.
I thought you were just misinformed, not cut off from everything. 

No, it should be taught in school, far before most people develop an interest in politics with the hope that they use the lessons they learn to guide them as they decide what they stand for.
It should, but where are the teachers getting there information? Who is the one promoting critical race theory in grade school?


It would never happen though, if any significant number of schools across the country started teaching this I guarantee the political right would start calling it indoctrination of their children and freak out just like they did over CRT. 
Politics shouldn't be taught in school. Learning the basic things, like Math, Science, English and all the core learning skills should be taught in grade school. Political bias should not be in school.
Because nearly anyone with a solid understanding of critical thinking and media literacy would be able to easily tell that right wing media is nothing but nonsense propaganda.
It's not nonsense. Have any proof that it is? No, your only proof is that some angry people said it was, and we are supposed to believe them.
How are you this misinformed? 



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You seem to be overlooking the fact that the Government are "People of the United States of America".

It's just that you are not an American person who is a member of the Government.

I'm sorry to have to tell you, that it's just how a society works.

Could be the USA could be Russia, which would you prefer?

If you want to run the USA, then you should have done better at school.

Or have a go and put yourself forwards for your next local election.

You're probably not ready yet for Senator or President.
Nope, the government is led by the people, but it isn't the people. 
People who work in the government are government workers, not government controllers. 
The government is the car, and the people are the steering wheel. That is how it's supposed to be. 
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This is because Democracy is objectively a flagrant system of a "might makes right" form of government that has only the constitution to keep the tyranny against the minority in check.
Does the constitution really keep tyranny against the minority in check? Or does it keep the prospect of revolt in check, staving off any possible uprisings as long as the masses believe they have at least basic rights? When the government can regulate your rights--even your "inalienable" rights--in accordance to their whims, why would they need to take them away?