Emergency Meep for election reform

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This keep is simultaneously being proposed and voted on right now do to the pressing nature of the approaching election. Voting will end January 2nd at 5pm eastern time and is a simple yes or no proposition

FELLOW DARTers-

I hope everyone will participate by VOTING on the following two modest propositions:

PROPOSITION1:

The presidential election should have vote counting done by an independent panel chosen by popular vote which does not include anyone running for president currently and will consist of 3 vote counters. This will be effective immediately at the start of the current/next election

Vote yes or no

PROPOSITION2:

A supreme court should be formed in case there is a challenge to the results of an election, the supreme court will hold the vote counting panels accountable if there is a challenge to the results of the election and the supreme court will be picked by a representative of Airmax which will be the user known as ilikepie. 

YES or NO?

VOTING PROCEDURE:

  • VOTING will remain OPEN immediately 
  • One VOTE per PERSON, please.
    • Duplicate VOTES will be disregarded.
    • No requests to change VOTE after submission will be considered.
    • Any indication of multi-accounting will be referred to MODERATION
    • Please help promote voting clarity by limiting posts to VOTING ONLY using roughly this format:
      1. YES or NO
      2. YES or NO 
    • QUESTIONS/CONCERNS/DISCUSSION/ARGUMENT/CAMPAIGNING are all encouraged and may be posted to new forum threads started by interested parties. 
    • For either PROPOSITION, at least 10 users must have voted in the MEEP, and more than a majority of all those voting must have voted for the question or proposal.
      • That means, in practice, that in a MEEP with 10 total voters, the minimum threshold for a binding result is 7 votes in favor of the proposal or question    With 20 total voters, the minimum threshold for a binding result is 11.
      • If either PROPOSITION fails to produce a binding result, no change shall be requested.
      • If either PROPOSTION succeeds, I'll provide that result to DebateArt.com and the MODERATION TEAM requesting that change be completed before the END of 2022.
THANKS in ADVANCE for EVERYBODY's SINCERE and FRIENDLY PARTICIPATION!


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I vote yes on proposition number one and proposition number 2
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1. Yes 
2. Yes
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Please vote
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Yes to PROPOSITION 1

Yes to PROPOSITION 2
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1. No
2. No
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1. Yes
2. Yes
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@PREZ-HILTON
Are you taking the p**s.

Or just having a daft laugh.






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This thread is for voting only
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No to both.

For the first, we'd be glad for volunteers to count the votes, but there is no benefit to the extra red tape proposed.

Likewise for second, just sounds like red tape to me.

This is much of why referendums usually go through a period of public review and feedback, before being put up for the vote.
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No on both.

Seems like this is built to make things unnecessarily difficult.
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@whiteflame
Seems like this is built to make things unnecessarily difficult.
No, it is built to give me a path for victory

Likewise for second, just sounds like red tape to me.
See above statement, the red tape is very important.

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Two definite yeses. 
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Running tally

Prop 1

yes 5
No 3

Pron 2

Yes 5
No 3
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1. No
2. No

An incredible amount of bureaucracy for the purpose of basic arithmetic.
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Liberals opposing bureaucracy. That’s a first lol

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no to both

Moderation already has the authorities bestowed in this poll and is impartial in any way 

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     1. No
     2. No

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1. No

2. No
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No to both because this particular role can't be trusted for the mods to privately count the votes and it's only the mods we should trust to be the vote counters.
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Man, you guys are really into the web site, I've just never seen a web site so foucused on it's own administration.

if I had to describe this web site I'd say it's a website that is about itself.

Plenty of trolls to make sure it's not a debate site...perhaps you should rename it TrollArt.
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A supreme court should be formed in case there is a challenge to the results of an election, the supreme court will hold the vote counting panels accountable if there is a challenge to the results of the election and the supreme court will be picked by a representative of Airmax which will be the user known as ilikepie. 

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@Sidewalker
please vote no to both if you care for justice on this website.

Most important to vote no to proposition 2.
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@YouFound_Lxam
The second proposition makes it so that ilikepie5 will select the entire supreme court.

Please reconsider your vote.
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@Vader
Moderation already has the authorities bestowed in this poll and is impartial in any way 
It's a check on moderation powers. Them counting votes also appeals about the vote count being the moderation is unfair. That essentially makes the moderation team- dictators. I would like that instead of whiteflame being Hitler. It's me. Just consider voting yes to proposition 2
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I vote no twice on P1 and three times on P2.
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No to both.
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WTF bro I helped you get 2nd place in survivor
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@PREZ-HILTON
Third, but yes, and I greatly appreciated that. You helped me tremendously in that game. However, that does not mean that I have to agree with all of your ideas. I think these propositions would unnecessarily complicate things. All the voting is public, so I don't see how either of them are needed.
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@SirAnonymous
Prop 2 is necessary. Airmax made a controversial decision on Stalin's vote which cost me an election with a one point margin. 

BSH1 was so upset about how close the election was that he refused to perform his presidential duties for 3 months