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@Castin
Fortunately, this case is not close to being the only of its kind meaning it's very believable and you needn't look further to know it happened.
Raped Dutch Politician Commits Suicide.
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@Castin
Seems there was no formal complaint. Not saying it's not legit.
Those close to her seem to haveno problem accepting her allegations. She must have confided in someone.
“The suicide was confirmed by local PVV leader KarenGerbrands who said Dille ‘could no longer bear what had happened to her and thereactions she had had”.
"Wehave had multiple contacts with her, including recently,’ Hilde Vijverbergsaid. ‘There was talk of rape. We offered her help and said we need a formalcomplaint and concrete evidence to start an investigation. ‘But she did notmake a formal complaint and we did not get any concrete information to enableus to launch an inquiry,’ Vijverberg is quoted as saying".
This is not unusual for victims of rape. Manywomen report rape years after the rape took place. This is usually because theyalways fear they will not be believed.
I agree, there isno evidence been offered here, but it appears her friends and work colleagueshave no problem with her story and of course she didn’t take her own life forno reason. And of course there is the stigma and the shame rape victims feel
The effects and aftermath of rape caninclude both physical trauma and psychological trauma. Deaths associated with rape are known to occur,though the prevalence of fatalities varies considerably across the world. Forrape victims the more common consequences of sexual violence are those relatedto reproductive health, mental health, and social wellbeing.
And none of this can possibly excuse the vile, heartless and ignorant response from vagabond. The man is a heartless disgrace and a stain on this brand new forum. I can only think he is being tolerated for entertainment value IMHO.
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@Polytheist-Witch
Well she said she was scared for herself and her family, which might make her hesitate. But she also made it sound like the proper authorities had neglected her appeal for help, while that article says the police followed up with her and asked if they could help but she didn't take it further.
That doesn't prove anything either way.
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@Stephen
Yeah her hesitation would be in line with common post rape behavior. I wonder if they'll be doing an autopsy with a rape kit. Although if she was not raped relatively recently there wouldn't be much evidence to be had.
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@Castin
Yeah it seems like one of those case someone probably has information but no one wants to get involved.
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@Castin
She said the rape occurred in March 2017.... I doubt there would be much point doing a test.
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@RationalMadman
The fact that you'll most likely be physically assaulted for bringing up these FACTS in public is the reason our side is gaining more and more support by the minute.
Soon enough we'll have enough support that we won't be afraid to face the viscous, violent lefties who think they can silence anyone with a different (or factually accurate) opinion.
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@keithprosser
Ah, missed that. Unfortunate. That evidence would've talked.
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@Castin
It's very noticeable that one side says she was raped and the other side says she claims to have been raped. Another odd feature is that she laid the blame on Arnoud van Doorn, who switched from being an islamophobe to being a Muslim.
Note he is not 'just a Muslim' "At the moment he is President of the European Da'wah Foundation, and Ambassador of Celebrity Relations for the Canadian Da'wah Association in Europe." (wikipedia).
People don't commit suicide unless they are troubled, but the right are trying to paint Ms Dille as a martyr - I get the impression things are not at all simple or straightforward as that.
but the right are trying to paint Ms Dille as a martyr
I see no evidence of that . Is all I have seen is evidence of concern and sorrow, from friends, colleagues & family and the likes of vagabond willing terrorist to do better in future.
--> @vagabondYou [r] pommy 25,000 [muslims terrorist ]are really slacking off. Not very good terrorists and they still terrify you, now that's funny.
And lets not forget the obvious and common thread running through this story and the cause of this tragic episode is islam.
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@Stephen
For some here, that is a positive thing.And lets not forget the obvious and common thread running through this story and the cause of this tragic episode is islam.
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@ethang5
I am beginning to realise that. I hope we are both wrong.For some here, that is a positive thing.
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@Stephen
@Mister_Man
I am left-leaning overall and identify as a social democrat which is more centrist than 'progressive' but in the options on this site there's no soc-dem so I chose prog.
As for your comment here:
I am beginning to realise that. I hope we are both wrong.
in reply to this:
For some here, that is a positive thing.
I am curious who you are referring to. I am unsure if you think the fact that Islam allows this in their scriptures is something people like me are happy about, we aren't.
Islam is an extremely conservative culture based on the disgusting right-wing mentality of preying on the vulnerable so don't call me right-wing again and do not confuse the left for not hating Islam. We loathe it, but those that do are afraid of the sheep on our side.
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@RationalMadman
Islam is an extremely conservative culture based on the disgusting right-wing mentality of preying on the vulnerable so don't call me right-wing again
Islam is neither left or right if you were to ask a muslim which I have done many times. To paraphrase a lot of muslims will tell you - "islam is just Islam and that's that, nothing in between, it is nothing to do with politics it is just a complete set of laws and instructions from god /Allah".
Although my own opinion it that islam is everything to do with politics and not much to do with "religion". But that is my own opinion.
Sorry, but am not sure I called anyone "right wing".
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@Stephen
Who were you referring to in the "I am beginning to realize that" post?
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@RationalMadman
When I wrote "I am beginning to realize that"
I had in mind anyone appearing to be left leaning of course. The vile Vagabond seems to want to excuse or at least play down the behaviour of these rapist by telling us there are victims of terrorism in the east and that the terrorists in this case were not worthy of the title terrorist and "not very good terrorist" who seems to find their raping efforts "funny" and not up to the 'standard' of real rapist terrorist..
-> @vagabondYou [r] pommy 25,000 [muslims terrorist ]are really slacking off. Not very good terrorists and they still terrify you, now that's funny.
And keithprosser has since come to the conclusion that the rape victim Willie Dille is somehow being held up by the right as some kind of a "martyr", I have yet to see his reasoning or evidence for this
As far as I am concerned, those comments are leftist , it is only the left who will always attempt to play down, excuse and play whataboutery, and he mock, when it comes to islamic terrorist and criminals and illegal immigration in general.
But, this thread is not about me or you, it is about about the behaviour of the alleged muslim terrorist/gang rapists and how far they will go to force their will onto others who oppose them.
Willie Dille was terrorised by muslims, as was her family into keeping quiet and told to "stop opposing Islam" and to stop speaking out against MP Arnoud van Doorn, a converted to Islam.
What exactly frightens you people? As far as I can see it's difference, you are xenophobes. Grow up.
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@vagabond
"you are xenophobes".
Xenophobia is the fear and distrust of that which is perceived to be foreign or strange. Dutch MP Willie Dille was not wrong though it appears. Seems she had justly been right to " fear and distrust". Do you understand the word - perceived - ? It means _ come to realize or understand _.
Grow up.
Get real. These people had warned her " not to oppose Islam". So you now are suggesting that she shouldn't have taken these threats serious even though her understanding and realisation was that she will be AND WAS physically harmed and this harm led to her death.
You just don't realise what you write do you. Bandying tags and labels around will not EVER excuse the behaviour of her muslim attackers, no matter how much and often you try to apologise for them.
You really are an exceptionally vile person.
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@Stephen
You simply don't understand words do you? So here is a little exercise that will prove beyond doubt that you don't.
Cite where I have mentioned this alleged victim, these alleged perpertrators, this alleged event and anywhere that I have lied (your claim) or said anything vile.
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@Stephen
And keithprosser has since come to the conclusion that the rape victim Willie Dille is somehow being held up by the right as some kind of a "martyr", I have yet to see his reasoning or evidence for this
The reasoning is that the right present Dille's death as the consequence of harrasment and rape by Muslims. Evidence for that exists in the quote above where Stephen says 'rape victim Willie Dille'.
Leftists prefer to emphasise that there is only Dille's claim that there was any harassment or rape.
There isn't enough evidence to know if Dille was raped or not. What one believes - and how one writes about it - depends on personal political bias.
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@ethang5
@Stephen
First off congrats on making a bait thread and failing to link to a video that actually works, really showcases your intelligence right out of the gate.
Secondly Willie Dillie, the politician you're referring to, was a noted Islaoaphobe who on August 6th left the city she was working in because of an unrelated investigation about her home. She accused a Muslim politician of starting the investigation and then hiring a group of people to go after her and rape her, yet she offered no proof that anything she was saying was true and even refused to go into further detail when she was interviewed by a tv station the very next day..... Following her suicide the day after that, there was no evidence that could be found that anything she said was true, and there is no evidence she was even raped in the first place.
Secondly Willie Dillie, the politician you're referring to, was a noted Islaoaphobe who on August 6th left the city she was working in because of an unrelated investigation about her home. She accused a Muslim politician of starting the investigation and then hiring a group of people to go after her and rape her, yet she offered no proof that anything she was saying was true and even refused to go into further detail when she was interviewed by a tv station the very next day..... Following her suicide the day after that, there was no evidence that could be found that anything she said was true, and there is no evidence she was even raped in the first place.
So congratulations, you're both retarded.
If she wasn't raped or harassed, what was her motive for suicide? That is the question currently floating around in my brain. It could be any number of reasons; I don't know her life. But that alternate motive needs to be found.
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@Castin
Depression. Or are all suicides the result of rape?
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@Castin
There was an investigation into her home/residence Starting around February of 2018.... When she went AWOL in August, the reason she gave for leaving the city was for the same investigation into her residence, who she blamed rival politicians (including the mayor) for starting in the first place.
If I had to guess why she committed suicide, I would put my money on the combination of the investigation into her home, her hiding something that would be ruinous to her career if it were revealed by the investigation, and some sort of undiagnosed mental illness that slipped under the radar. People dont flip sh*t about an investigation into their home the way this politician did unless they have some sort of mental affliction, are hiding something fairly big, or both.
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@vagabond
"Any number of reasons" = things in her life that would have contributed to depression and ultimately suicide.
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@Imabench
There was an investigation into her home/residence Starting around February of 2018.... When she went AWOL in August, the reason she gave for leaving the city was for the same investigation into her residence, who she blamed rival politicians (including the mayor) for starting in the first place.If I had to guess why she committed suicide, I would put my money on the combination of the investigation into her home, her hiding something that would be ruinous to her career if it were revealed by the investigation, and some sort of undiagnosed mental illness that slipped under the radar. People dont flip sh*t about an investigation into their home the way this politician did unless they have some sort of mental affliction, are hiding something fairly big, or both.
Here we go. I find that pretty plausible. But what do you suppose she was hiding?
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@Imabench
failing to link to a video that actually works, really showcases your intelligence right out of the gate.
It works fine for me and I don't think anyone else has had a problem
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But it hasn't stopped you commenting on a video you haven't watched , has it?
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@Imabench
Ethan did not make this thread. But why let the facts stop you right? You're bench, you can't be wrong.First off congrats on making a bait thread and failing to link to a video that actually works,...
....you're both retarded.
Yeah. You're coming off as super intelligent. How do two people make a thread?
Was calling this a "bait thread" difficult with the bait in your mouth?
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@ethang5
@Stephen
It works fine for me and I don't think anyone else has had a problem
Both my computer and phone have failed to be able to view the video, and the fact that the thread is based solely off of a youtube video rather then a link of the incident from a reputable source makes me inclined to believe that the incident in question is probably fake, which actual research confirmed.
Ethan did not make this thread. But why let the facts stop you right?
Are you really so goddamn stupid that you couldn't tell the first part of my response discussing the creation of thread was meant for Stephen, the creator of the thread? For gods sake boy, at least TRY to use one of the five functioning brain cells you have in your empty skull. Then after that, maybe try to respond to some of the arguments I made about why the event in question is fake, rather then structure your reply entirely around your inability to read context clues.