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@YouFound_Lxam
A lot of people also forget that heterosexual men are also forbidden to fuck men
I think in several places it condemns men from laying with men.
Arsenokoitai refers to 'man' and 'bed' and the context is generally accepted to be sexual and negative. I get how some who have hard feelings about homosexuality might equivocate here, but I think that might be going beyond what was intended. 'Arsenokoitai' can be referring to abusive sex acts men might commit with other men or boys and not necessarily homosexuality in general.I don't claim to be an expert in languages, but I think it is fair to point out the biblically supported condemnation of homosexuality might not be biblical after all.
Being homosexual in of itself is not a sin. There are many men who just feel more attracted to men than women. It only becomes a sin, once you act upon those urges.
Stop it! The biblical facts are clear. Playing semantics won't work. Your god hated homosexuality and homosexuals and ordered them put to death.
Stop it! The biblical facts are clear. Playing semantics won't work. Your god hated homosexuality and homosexuals and ordered them put to death.God doesn't hate anything.
He loves everyone, even the sinners. But he can't allow the sinners to enter his kingdom, because he is pure, and we are not.
And God doesn't send anyone to death, he saves them from death, because the minute we are born, we are full of sin and on the way to hell. He saves us from that fate, if we ask him into our hearts.
Your just mad, that you can't frame God, for being the stereotypical thing that all non-believers think he is.
What about sin?
Did anyone pray for Judas? Did God forgive Judas. Did anyone pray for Satan? Has God forgiven Satan?
"But woe to that man who betrays the Son of Man! It would be better for him if he had not been born. ”Matthew 26:24 <<< I see
No. I have nothing to be "mad" about.But you are attempting to rewrite scripture and are contradicting that which is actually written .
You have to get over the fact that if you are going to persist that "god" created everything in the whole universe then he created homosexuals and then called it an "abomination" then he ordered capital punishment for those who participate in homosexual act.Strange that there is nothing in the commandments or the whole of the bible that condemns paedophilia. I wonder, is this why it is rife in most religious cults?
Having homosexual desires is not a sin.
But giving into those desires is what makes it a sin.
To covet these abominations is a sin.
And what is the punishment for homosexuals that commit homosexual acts?
To covet these abominations is a sin.
And what is the punishment for homosexuals that commit homosexual acts?
Having homosexual desires is not a sin.To covet these abominations is a sin.It's human nature to have sinful desires. But it's only temptation. Giving into the temptation is the sin.
And what is the punishment for homosexuals that commit homosexual acts?The same punishment for any other sin.... because its sin.
Therefore, read biblically about TEMPTATION: In being a homosexual man is a SIN in being TEMPTED to have ungodly sex with another man in the first place of which I had to "school you" upon before!This is in the same context as committing ADULTERY in looking at a woman with TEMPTATION of lustful intent: ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent>>>>>>>>>>> has already committed adultery with her in his heart."<<<<<<<<<<<< (Matthew 5:27-28)Get it Bible fool? Obviously not, therefore you remain the #2 Bible fool upon this Religion Forum! LOL!
You just cannot admit it or tell the truth when caught cold can you? It might well be human nature but to covet is a sin. Stop trying to play down the seriousness of the coveted "sin" in gods eyes.
And being homosexual is a sin.
Which is what?
Exactly Brother D.YouFound_Lxam wanted someone to engage him in a civil conversation/discussion. But then simply resorts to telling lies and making up excuses just like Tradesecret always does when he has painted himself into a corner.I suppose we can expect YouFound_Lxam to start redefining words for us anytime soon which is also another trait of the Reverend Tradsecret.
You just cannot admit it or tell the truth when caught cold can you? It might well be human nature but to covet is a sin. Stop trying to play down the seriousness of the coveted "sin" in gods eyes.To covet, is wanting, or desiring something else that someone else possesses. I'm not saying you can't want other things that other people have, but to want what they have specifically, is coveting and is a sin.
One of the ten commandments' states," Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s house, nor his farm, nor his cattle, nor anything that is his!It doesn't say covet by itself; it says covet your neighbors' specific belongings.
Brother D. Thomas wrote: This is in the same context as committing ADULTERY in looking at a woman with TEMPTATION of lustful intent: ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent>>>>>>>>>>> has already committed adultery with her in his heart."<<<<<<<<<<<< (Matthew 5:27-28)
And being homosexual is a sin.We have already conceded, that it is not.
Which is what?Damnation in hell, unless you truly ask the Lord to forgive you of your sins and ask him into your heart.
Exactly Brother D.YouFound_Lxam wanted someone to engage him in a civil conversation/discussion. But then simply resorts to telling lies and making up excuses just like Tradesecret always does when he has painted himself into a corner.I suppose we can expect YouFound_Lxam to start redefining words for us anytime soon which is also another trait of the Reverend Tradsecret.Brother D. is a troll, and that is why I have decided to stop replying to him.
I will not debate against someone who has repeatedly insulted my person,
YouFound_Lxam God exists, and I Can Prove It. https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/8271-god-exists-and-i-can-prove-it?page=1
Yes and we are talking a Homo SEXUAL DESIRE which is an abomination in the eyes of god. Stop trying to play down the seriousness of this offence in the eyes of god.
This particular offence is singled out by god to be an absolute abhorrence, and you are trying to play it down as just another sin among all other sins. And this is devious of you. Or you simply do not understand what you are reading when reading the bible.
Stop it! To covet is a sin. Because to covet can lead to worse things such as murder or in the case of the homosexual it can lead to sexual deviancy in the eyes of god for which the homosexual should be "put to death".The verse posted by the Brother proves this fact. HERE>>Brother D. Thomas wrote: This is in the same context as committing ADULTERY in looking at a woman with TEMPTATION of lustful intent: ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent>>>>>>>>>>> has already committed adultery with her in his heart."<<<<<<<<<<<< (Matthew 5:27-28)Just thinking about it is a sin. It is thought sin/crime.
This is where you are being intentionally evasive and deceptive. Your god specifically says that homosexuals should be put to death. Your god nor the bible does not say homosexuals will suffer in hell or anywhere else for that matter; But should be put to death in the here and now moment.
The Brother takes his scriptures serious- far too serious imo. I have had my own run-ins with the Brother D over the years. But I can guarantee you this;the Brother won't deny what is written in the bible.He won't attempt to re-write scripture.He won't attempt to re define words and their meanings to win an argument, and the Brother does not try to defend the indefensible with blatant lies, denials and contradictions. Nor will he play semantics, nearly all have which you have displayed from the day you started posting on the religion forum.
Like I said above, "Christians" maybe don't hate homosexuals, but your god - the god of the Christian bible most certainly does and insists that they be put to death there and then.