Another idiot dies by cop failing to follow commands and grabbing for the taser

These idiots actually believe they have a right to question cops doing their job, refusing lawful commands, aggressively grabbing at a cop, reaching for their taser and/or service weapon, and all to contradict society’s established law and order. 

These idiots actually believe they have a right to question cops doing their job, refusing lawful commands, aggressively grabbing at a cop, reaching for their taser and/or service weapon, and all to contradict society’s established law and order. 

The officer didn't tell him what he was being stopped for when the guy asked. Why would I assume a cop is "doing their job" or giving "lawful commands" if, up to the moment, I've done nothing wrong. Law and order can only be upheld in a society if citizens can know the law and what is expected of them.

These idiots actually believe they have a right to question cops doing their job

When you’re dumb enough to do this and you get yourself killed, you reap what you sow. Your fault, not the cops

You don’t know the traffic laws, they do

Either way, it is not to you to question their decisions and/or authority

Therefore, you won’t know if you did something wrong until you are told.

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You don’t know the traffic laws, they do

Not always. Lawyers usually know the law better than cops and the supreme court has also ruled cops do not need to know the law in order to enforce it.

I am not a lawyer and their are aspects of the law I probably understand better than a lot of cops.

Either way, it is not to you to question their decisions and/or authority

While true, the best cops I know read the book verbal jujitsu and have an easier time getting cooperation than the cop in this incident did.

When it comes to the routine basic traffic laws, yes, they do

The cop alters their position/stance based on that initial encounter

When it comes to the routine basic traffic laws, yes, they do

Without googling it, how long is considered reasonable for a reasonable stop?

The supreme court has given the exact time to the minute.

I mention that one because cops get it wrong all of the time. 

We also have many cops who are either stupid and don't understand they are violating the spirit of the law many times or they are smart and pretending to be stupid so they can violate the spirit of the law. For example pulling people over for dice in the mirror. 

The cop alters their position/stance based on that initial encounter

Not true at all that it is completely dependent on the person stopped, otherwise you wouldn't have the best cops using the book verbal jujitsu. You also wouldn't have studies, like the studies which show command presence keeps cops safer. Those studies wouldn't even be relevant if all cops behaved exactly identical like robots. 

Like it or not, police officers are not robots and each one has a separate personality as well as a variety of policing skills

Shifting the goal posts from knowing the traffic laws to duration of a traffic stop I see

There is a reason why dice don’t hang from the mirror anymore, state legislators have outlawed it because it was determined to be something that has the potential to obstruct the driver’s full view out of the windshield.

Cracks in the windshield also fall under the same category, and one can be cited for a damaged windshield due to said obstructions

stopped using that stupid phrase “the book of verbal jujitsu,” it’s not making your position sound anymore factually accurate when it so clearly is not. 

Again, we are all human and can change our behavior, demeanor and attitude based on how we are treated by another despite all efforts to be kind. 

Shifting the goal posts from knowing the traffic laws to duration of a traffic stop I see

Wrong

There is a reason why dice don’t hang from the mirror anymore, state legislators have outlawed it because it was determined to be something that has the potential to obstruct the driver’s full view out of the windshield.

It doesn't obstruct the view though, nice try. We have bifocal vision so as long as each eye has a different angle, you should be able to see any traffic behind it. 

Cracks in the windshield also fall under the same category, and one can be cited for a damaged windshield due to said obstructions

See bifocal vision. It doesn't obstruct driving because some rock left a tiny crack in your windshield.

So again cops being like "well technically it is In their vision so it obstructs view" is not following the spirit of the law. On top of that if we actually took what you said seriously then the bar that connects the rearview mirror to the windshield technically obstructs the view also.

You would have to be a complete retard to thing somebody hanging an air freshener is risking a car crash because of it. 

stopped using that stupid phrase “the book of verbal jujitsu,” it’s not making your position sound anymore factually accurate when it so clearly is not. 

Ha, so you haven't read it. It's absolutely retarded to think how you stay stuff has no effect on how others respond to you. If you want we can debate whether choosing words differently effects the behavior of others, we can also have a debate on whether command presence is more likely to get favorable outcomes for police than those who do not use command presence.

Again, we are all human and can change our behavior, demeanor and attitude based on how we are treated by another despite all efforts to be kind. 

One hell of an admission. Prior to that you claimed cops were all robots and the citizen being stopped was in full control of an officers behavior. 

Don’t need to read it. I know how to execute proper interpersonal communications. I was so good at it when I was conducting background investigations for a county Sheriff of new candidates, that many felt so comfortable talking to me they divulged information that got their application tossed into the bin. 

You: I made no such claim. You clearly know not of anything regarding psychology and human interactions that go in any direction based on the behavior, attitude, demeanor and word choice of one party directed at another. 

Also you: Irrelevant. Everything that has the potential to happen (or not happen) during a traffic stop is predicated on how the citizen stopped and contacted reacts to and treats the cop. The cop alters their position/stance based on that initial encounter. 

Guess all those legislators who wrote the law prohibiting fuzzy dive and air fresheners hanging from the rear view mirror are all retards then, according to your (Ill)logic. 🤦🏼‍♂️ 

Ever wear the uniform? Put the badge on? Conduct traffic stops? 

3. "Outright breakage" means glass which is severely cracked or shattered to the extent that air passes through it or, if by running a fingertip over the cracked area, the glass moves or sharp edges can be felt;

4. "Star break or shot damage" means a vented break with cracks radiating from the point of impact; and

5. "Stress or hairline crack" means a crack which has no visible point of impact.”

No, Right! You jumped from baselessly claiming cops know very little about the routine traffic laws that they enforce to the courts determining how long a traffic stop should and shouldn’t be. That’s shifting the goal posts (i.e. a non sequitur argument

Stress or hairline crack" means a crack which has no visible point of impact.”

You merely said crack before, if you had a more nuanced view, you should have written the above out to start with.

you would be the type to argue with a cop about it when pulled over. 

Cracks in the windshield also fall under the same category, and one can be cited for a damaged windshield due to said obstructions. 

See bifocal vision. It doesn't obstruct driving because some rock left a tiny crack in your windshield

"Outright breakage" means glass which is severely cracked or shattered to the extent that air passes through it or, if by running a fingertip over the cracked area, the glass moves or sharp edges can be felt;

4. "Star break or shot damage" means a vented break with cracks radiating from the point of impact; and

5. "Stress or hairline crack" means a crack which has no visible point of impact.”

Irrelevant. Everything that has the potential to happen (or not happen) during a traffic stop is predicated on how the citizen stopped and contacted reacts to and treats the cop. The cop alters their position/stance based on that initial encounter. 

Again, we are all human and can change our behavior, demeanor and attitude based on how we are treated by another despite all efforts to be kind

You don’t know the traffic laws, they do

When it comes to the routine basic traffic laws, yes, they do know the traffic laws better than the average Jane and John Doe.

Shifting the goal posts from knowing the traffic laws to duration of a traffic stop I see

Those are your quotes though. Lol