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@Novice_II
Okay, what is the circularity within the conservative position on abortion, that makes use of more logical circularity when placed proportional to the left wing abortion position.
So, let's even begin at the cases such as rape, mother-may-die and down's syndrome baby.
I think the down's syndrome scenario has the biggest argument to make on the pro-life case but I would like to say that the fact many struggle to even justify it in cases of rape and parent dying show that there is no real understanding of 'weighing' value going on, it's about an irrational absolute.
This absolute is indeed irrational because we all know that once you are born the right wing couldn't give the slightest shit about you. They won't help a poor family plagued with 10 kids because they couldn't abort and couldn't regularly afford contraception. They won't help out the parents if addicted to get off the drugs or out of the situation they're in if they own loan sharks etc while funding their addiction. The entire cycle is vicious and said parents or older siblings may have to become gangsters to fund their family as the shitty jobs don't pay enough for them to help their younger siblings get through university/college or even have a shot at thing. These gangsters will be shot without hesitation by conservative cops, especially if they aren't white.
What starts happening in a right-wing society is always a severe divide and alienation of the poor and needy. This makes more poor and more needy people until absolute poverty in slums/ghettos/favelas etc is achieved and is seen in any continent be it south america, africa, middle east (which is also in)... asia etc where capitalist shitholes form and it's 'every man for himself' vibes. These same selfish cunts will then go to church, mosque, temple, synagogue etc and pay that establishment to stay put and make it specially exempt from tax but to a beggar they'd give nothing and that's fine because there shouldn't need to be many beggars in an optimal left-wing society but there exists no optimal right-wing society.
So you see, if we really look into the right-wing mentality what they want is solely to blackmail mothers to produce the offspring and not give a damn about the offspring once it exists. They want barely any maternity leave if the corporation wants it (and no place want sto pay a minimum wage earner maternity leave). The entire right-wing society would be absolute apex hell for the born offspring, it is so ironic actually.
Their brain can't even process that; that by killing one fetus and saving it from a shit life, maybe that poor parent has enough to give their other offspring a semi-decent one and even one more will break the bank and ruin the equilibrium. Then the right-wing blame blame blame but they rarely ever can do two essential thing their religions always say to do; forgive and help.
It's all well and good saying 'omg it's a formed fetus SAVE IT' but these same nutjobs would ideally ban contraception, ban homosexuality and make us all think of sex as a thing for reproduction. Every single ejaculation from a wet dream or masturbation is a 'lost shot at a life' you barely ever will produce the same 2 sperm of DNA mixture and the egg of the woman you have sex with is almost never ever going to be that exact mix for the rest of her life. To truly not waste potential life away you'd have to have sex with women every moment you had a good cumshot in you or, as a woman, take dick every time after your deliveries have happened and the cycle after the next period commences (but towards 14 days into it, not immediately).
Clearly, this is stupid and even the right wing dont believe that. Nobody wants to force us to use all sperm and all eggs to make life, it's okay to waste potential life away if it's not the right time to have them for the parents, especially the mother who has to host the being for 9 months. That's also not caring for the being that will be born relatively unwanted and under-cared for.
What I'm typing isn't even half of the hypocrisy and stupidity involved with a wing that would happily send children to war and engage aggressively with everyone being armed and firing guns at will ready to shoot the other before they can shoot (in term sof America's right wing).
The right-wing's logic for abortion is:
OMG IT'S ALIVE AHHHHHH OHHHH NOOOO IT'S ALIVE END OF DISCUSSIONS IT'S ALIVE AND IT'S HUMAN!!!
Then they eat their nice steak for dinner, or hell lamb or veal which is an infant of its species and maybe some nice eggs too and say 'hip hip hooray!'
The same stunted logic leads them to oppose euthanasia. The point is they couldn't give a shit about making life better, they just want to force the life to occur, which is clearly ridiculous logical reasoning.
the left wing rarely support abortion in the third trimester and if in the second maximum to the fourth month. They see a time gap to allow the mother to know she's ready to raise it as they know the foster care system is relatively crap and very few want to adopt. They also know that at present the right-wing have made life too shit for lower in come households to cope with too many offspring.
