Arizona Republican Party used the Big Lie to raise money from their dummy constituents

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“The text message suggests that Arizona GOP leaders had no intention of using donations to help pay for the audit effort, despite what it had been telling its supporters in fundraising pleas. In the end, the $6 million audit was bankrolled through a separate fundraising effort by election denier groups, along with $150,000 in initial taxpayer money”

“Pitch in to Help Us Finish America’s Audit!” and “Help America’s Audit” were among the dozens of pitches from the party.


“The pattern was evident around the country. In total, the House committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the U.S. Capitol found that more than $250 million was raised off fraudulent claims that the election was stolen. Trump’s campaign continued to raise money for an “Election Defense Fund” that did not exist. Trump’s PAC has raised more than $100 million, much of it on claims the election was stolen, and he has largely hoarded the money while spending some on candidates and some on his own lawyers”
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Gonna be funny when 

Kari Lake is the Governor
Blake Masters is a Senator
Mark Finchem is the Secretary of State
Abraham Hamadeh is the Attorney General

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Gonna be funny when 
Kari Lake is the Governor
Blake Masters is a Senator
Mark Finchem is the Secretary of State
Abraham Hamadeh is the Attorney General
funny like Pearl Harbor
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Dude, Liz Cheney gonna so gonna be guv of Arizona and Meghan McCain gonna be Lt Guv.
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Also. wonder how much money the DNC spent on Republican candidates this year?


:D
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funny like Pearl Harbor
I will see you on November 8th :)
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Also. wonder how much money the DNC spent on Republican candidates this year?
They burned their money. Thanks Democrats 

Dude, Liz Cheney gonna so gonna be guv of Arizona and Meghan McCain gonna be Lt Guv.
Lol, Liz Cheney has more balls than Katie Hobbs lmfaooo
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A Zedku for ILikePie5.


Us and them.

So different,

And yet,

So alike.
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Gonna be funny when 

Kari Lake is the Governor
Blake Masters is a Senator
Mark Finchem is the Secretary of State
Abraham Hamadeh is the Attorney General
Why?
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Did you not see the endless memes of reaction videos when Trump became president?

I found them to be funny, but I guess some people would revel in the hyperbolic reactions.
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Why?
Cause everyone wrote them off, and to an extent are still writing them off
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You are a parrot. It says so in your name.
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Did you know Kari Lake ran a janitorial crew? She has experience for politics!
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Cause everyone wrote them off, and to an extent are still writing them off
Right.

So watching some of the biggest crackpots we've ever seen run for office win governorships is funny cause you know... Own the libs.

Not like I expected you're priorities to be anything else so... 
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Did you know Kari Lake ran a janitorial crew? She has experience for politics!
I actually did. She worked to pay her way through college because she had like 7 brothers/sisters or something. Really crazy
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Right.

So watching some of the biggest crackpots we've ever seen run for office win governorships is funny cause you know... Own the libs.

Not like I expected you're priorities to be anything else so... 
I was referring to “pundits” like you, but go on. 2016 was a whitelash right?
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2016 was a whitelash right?

roffle
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So watching some of the biggest crackpots we've ever seen run for office win governorships is funny cause you know... Own the libs.

Technically they are owning the lib's campaign contributions since the DNC put them on the ballot with your money.
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Fr, imma ask Dems how they feel about getting Kari Lake elected lol
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Fr, imma ask Dems how they feel about getting Kari Lake elected lol
Most Dems are not pleased with the fact that various democratic campaigns decided to risk our democracy for the sake of winning their seats, but what's frankly stupid is to pretend those Dems are the problem and not the idiots voting for them and republican politicians supporting them.
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Is it really risking "Democracy?" Or is part of the fear from the loss of Democrat power? Honestly?


Worst case scenario, what EXACTLY do you think would change about "Democracy"...other than more restrictions on illegal voting and more security and verification?

Do you really think the changes many Republicans propose to make elections more secure will fundamentally change the country?

What is your worst case prediction?
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Most Dems are not pleased with the fact that various democratic campaigns decided to risk our democracy for the sake of winning their seats, but what's frankly stupid is to pretend those Dems are the problem and not the idiots voting for them and republican politicians supporting them.
You donating to Democrats = you risking our democracy. Maybe stop donating to Democrats?
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“The text message suggests that Arizona GOP leaders had no intention of using donations to help pay for the audit effort, despite what it had been telling its supporters in fundraising pleas. In the end, the $6 million audit was bankrolled through a separate fundraising effort by election denier groups, along with $150,000 in initial taxpayer money”

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“The pattern was evident around the country. In total, the House committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the U.S. Capitol found that more than $250 million was raised off fraudulent claims that the election was stolen. Trump’s campaign continued to raise money for an “Election Defense Fund” that did not exist. Trump’s PAC has raised more than $100 million, much of it on claims the election was stolen, and he has largely hoarded the money while spending some on candidates and some on his own lawyers”
Americans have been lied to throughout their history. America was built on lies from stealing land from the Native Indians to Black Slavery. From all the wars against communism to wars on Muslims. So paying to continue the  big lie is American Democracy. Americans have bought into the system. Trump was very much a part of this system and all the fraud cases against him needs to be defended and Americans know that very well.

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The actual "big lie" that people are waking up to is the lie that the government actually fulfills their end of the social contract to protect American Citizens. Increasingly, from both the neolibs and the neocons, it is apparent that the government has abused the authoritative power given to them from the people with the social contract to promote global interests over American citizen interests. See Ukraine for exhibit A; illegal immigration for Exhibit B and the wholesale destruction of the American economy for corporate pharmaceutical and green energy interests for Exhibit C.
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The actual "big lie" that people are waking up to is the lie that the government actually fulfills their end of the social contract to protect American Citizens. Increasingly, from both the neolibs and the neocons, it is apparent that the government has abused the authoritative power given to them from the people with the social contract to promote global interests over American citizen interests. See Ukraine for exhibit A; illegal immigration for Exhibit B and the wholesale destruction of the American economy for corporate pharmaceutical and green energy interests for Exhibit C.
After America withdrew from Afghanistan and Iraq they have very little global influence left as a superpower. They withdrew in disgrace from every country they invaded.
Now the leaders are turning on the American people. America needs wars to fund their vast military complex and having exited from the Middle East and Asia they need to create other distractions or maybe even another civil war.

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Do you really think the changes many Republicans propose to make elections more secure will fundamentally change the country?

What is your worst case prediction?
I would hardly call it a prediction, they've been pretty transparent about it. If these crackpots win and the democratic candidate wins the electoral college in 2024 they will simply claim, with no evidence of course, that it was due to fraud and not certify the election in their state. They will instead declare it the obligation of the state legislature to step in and settle the "dispute" by deciding who gets the states electoral college points.

In other words, to hell with what the voters say, we the politicians get to pick the next president.

This isn't some big secret, these candidates are pretty much building their political futures on this hill. It's also nothing new, it's straight out of the fascist's playbook.

It's the exact same strategy Trump was trying to work in 2020, but it failed because once upon a time we used to agree that the person who gets the most votes wins. Since then Trump's disdain for democracy has corrupted the brains of the political right and now everyone suddenly became conspiracy theorists. Like I've always said, corrupting the minds of half the country has always been his most impressive accomplishment.
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In other words, to hell with what the voters say, we the politicians get to pick the next president.
So what exactly are you asking your Democrat friends in Congress to do about this legislatively besides declaring civil war on Republicans?

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There's very little they can do legislatively, especially since the entire republican party is in the tank on this.

No one (at least on the left) is talking about civil war. That's a right wing thing. What we're talking about is winning at the ballot box to keep these crackpots away from deciding American elections.
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You donating to Democrats = you risking our democracy.
Right, donating to the side trying to save our democracy = risking our democracy.

Great logic there ILP5
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Correct me if I am wrong, but haven't the Democrats in Congress had the full power to pass any legislation they want up to now?

Why would you throw your hands up in the air and say "Oh the Democrats are powerless"?

Essentially, you are making the claim that democracy is irrelevant because the people you vote for are powerless, even if you vote in a majority like the Democrats had for 2 years... Why would you think that?