Zelensky Calls For NUCLEAR First Strikes Against Russia

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Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons. In 1994, Ukraine agreed to destroy the weapons, and to join the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT). In hindsight that was a mistake. Russia would have respected Ukraine’s sovereignty.
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It’s Putin’s fault. Just like inflation 
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Elon Musk just denied the Ukraine Nazis access to Starlink as Zelensky demanded the return of the Donbas.


Does anyone else here think that the following might be the case?
1) Elon is convinced like everyone else that Ukraine is an innocent victim
2) Elon gives them StarLink
3) Elon does a little research on what's actually going on
4) Elon discovers that this whole war is being fought over two small patches of land with no strategic value, filled with ethnic Russians who want to be part of Russia, and a peninsula that's already effectively under Russian control and happier for it
5) Maybe someone tells Elon that Zelensky has outlawed opposition parties and taken TV stations critical of him off the air
6) And maybe Elon watches Tucker, and hears about that tentative peace deal back in April that the US and UK kiboshed
7) He makes some helpful suggestions for peace in a Twitter poll
8) Ukrainian diplomat tells him to go f*** himself
9) Zelensky starts talking about preemptive strikes by the US against Russia
10) Elon is like, "well, this has gotten out of hand. Time to pull the plug and force the Ukrainians to the negotiating table. I'll just pretend it's a glitch I can't fix anytime soon."

I mean, if I'd helped Ukraine and that helped to lead to what's happening now? It's what I'd do too.
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Only in clown world are MIC supporters given Nobel peace prizes, and people who demand actual peace talks like Musk are labeled as a "terrorist"
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God willing Novorossia will be established soon. The liberal regime of Zelensky will fall.
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Do Ukrainians feel threaten by Putin talking nuclear strikes? Does NATO or any one else, feel and then  fear Putins rehtoric of nuclear strikes on  Ukraine?

If a police officer ---put in place Ukrainians--  feels threaten of bodily harm, or worse, are they  allowed to use lethal force? ---see not guilty verdict in current events----.

I guess the differrence is that Ukrainians are not police officers, so they have no right to use lethal weapons or nuclear missiles, just because they feel threatened by nuclear attack.

Putin initiated the violent conflict, and initiated nuclear threats.  Why do that? Does he feel back into a corner for his country or just his ego, and is desperate to save face by initiating nuclear option?

Fight fire with fire, fight nuclear threat with nuclear threat? Ukrainians do not have nuclear missiles, so they cant offer any nuclear threat, so there asking some one else to offer the nuclear threat?


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This war is about independence for the Donbas. Period.
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Do Ukrainians feel threaten by Putin talking nuclear strikes? Does NATO or any one else, feel and then  fear Putins rehtoric of nuclear strikes on  Ukraine?

If a police officer ---put in place Ukrainians--  feels threaten of bodily harm, or worse, are they  allowed to use lethal force? ---see not guilty verdict in current events----.

I guess the differrence is that Ukrainians are not police officers, so they have no right to use lethal weapons or nuclear missiles, just because they feel threatened by nuclear attack.

Putin initiated the violent conflict, and initiated nuclear threats.  Why do that? Does he feel back into a corner for his country or just his ego, and is desperate to save face by initiating nuclear option?

Fight fire with fire, fight nuclear threat with nuclear threat? Ukrainians do not have nuclear missiles, so they cant offer any nuclear threat, so there asking some one else to offer the nuclear threat?
You totally miss Putin’s justification for using nuclear strikes against Ukraine. The concept of M.A.D. does not apply here because Ukraine is not a nuclear equipped country. M.A.D only applies to countries equipped with nuclear weapons going to war with each other and threatening to use nuclear weapons.

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The concept of M.A.D. does not apply here because Ukraine is not a nuclear equipped country. 

Correct, which makes Zelensky's campaign to invade Russia the most idiotic thing ever since Napoleon.

Qǐ lái! Bú yuàn zuò nú lì de rén men!
Bǎ wǒ men de xuè ròu,
     zhù chéng wǒ men xīn de cháng chéng!

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The concept of M.A.D. does not apply here because Ukraine is not a nuclear equipped country. 

Correct, which makes Zelensky's campaign to invade Russia the most idiotic thing ever since Napoleon.

Qǐ lái! Bú yuàn zuò nú lì de rén men!
Bǎ wǒ men de xuè ròu,
     zhù chéng wǒ men xīn de cháng chéng!
Ukraine has the right to invade Russia just like Russia invaded Ukraine.
They just have to be given the advanced weapons to succeed.
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Zelensky Calls For NUCLEAR First Strikes Against Russia

And the topic of thread is .." Zelensky Calls For NUCLEAR First Strikes Against Russia "... and your daily, weekly or monthly period may be affecting your logical common sense hormones.

Orange-Grey-Parrot, use map before and after your regular period is over.
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sǐ wáng hé zhàn zhēng!