The beauties of Islam

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"By Allah, if Fatimah the daughter of Muhammad were to steal, I would cut off her hand" - Prophet muhammad

The punishment for stealing in islam is cutting off the hand.
It says so in the Quran too, and Quran cannot be changed to fit modern times because muslims dont allow any change.

Muslims often say that countries like Saudi Arabia are very advanced and rich, and therefore, a proof that islam works.

However, when it comes to human rights, Saudi Arabia is not far from Afganistan.

Cutting off hands, imprisoning gays, forced marriages, honor killings, killing atheists... just some of many questionable things practiced in Saudi Arabia.

Muslims say they hate pedophiles, but only in some cases.
For example, most muslims will say they are against pedophilia.
However, if you bring up muhammads marriage to Aisha when she was 6 years old and he was 40, they will start to justify it and say its not pedophilia. They will say she married him for financial reasons.
So its not just pedophilia, but its also prostitution.

Prostitution is legal in Saudi Arabia, in a sense that parents are allowed to sell their daughters into marriage. Daughters are forced to obey their parents and marry whoever their parents decide is right for them.

What happens if daughters disobey parents? Well, thats where the honor killing comes in handy.

Most of the people in the modern world dont know what honor killing is.

In Saudi Arabia, if a daughter gets labeled as slut, her father has a right to kill her. That is honor killing.

But please take notice that the word "slut" there is actually used to describe sex outside marriage.
But in order for her to marry, her family must approve marriage and agree with it.

So the only way not to be labeled as a slut is to marry the one your family wants.

You will often hear the line: "islam is a religion of peace".
As long as muslims are a minority in any country, they pretend to be peaceful and the line seems to be true.

However, what happens when muslims are a majority?

Imagine that you were born in a muslim family in Saudi Arabia.

In your childhood starting from age 4, you would be "educated" about islam.
It would be made clear to you that you would be punished by burning alive in a fire if you ever decide to leave islam.
You would also hear many examples of people being tortured for leaving islam.
You would also be taught that every other religion is wrong, and that only islam is right.

This is being taught in every country where muslims are a majority.

Now, lets say that at the age of 14, you start studying the Quran. In every chapter, you find different torture methods Allah uses on atheists.
At this point, if you have any human sense, you will start doubting islam.

However, then you are faced with the new problem.

While muslims often claim that there is no force in their religion, opposite is true in all countries where muslims are a majority.

In Saudi Arabia, if you declare yourself an atheist, your father has a right to kill you for bringing shame to family.

This is justified in Quran 18:80 :

Muslim in Quran 18:80 explains why he killed a boy:
"And as for the boy, his parents were true believers, and we feared that he would pressure them into defiance and disbelief."

So in Quran, the disbelief is used as a reason for murder.

Muslims will often lie and say that killing non-believers is justified only as a response to an attack.
However, muslims themselves disagree about what is considered "an attack".
For example, in Saudi Arabia, they believe that the mere talking against islam is an attack on islam.

In many muslim countries, its illegal to talk against islam.

So yeah, that is the beauty of islam.

The worlds fastest growing cult islam has many other beauties too:
1) praying every day for Allah not to punish you
2) getting circumcised
3) living in fear
4) living life thinking you are an insignificant dust
5) being told to sacrifice animals to Allah
6) being told that all non muslims are evil

So basically, if you like this kind of stuff, join islam. I am not gonna stop you because my belief in self-determination doesnt allow me to decide about your life for you.

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So yeah, that is the beauty of islam.

The worlds fastest growing cult islam has many other beauties too:
1) praying every day for Allah not to punish you
2) getting circumcised
3) living in fear
4) living life thinking you are an insignificant dust
5) being told to sacrifice animals to Allah
6) being told that all non muslims are evil

So basically, if you like this kind of stuff, join islam. I am not gonna stop you because my belief in self-determination doesnt allow me to decide about your life for you.
What is a communist doing dabbling in religion? Kim Jung-un is already worshipped in North Korea. What is that religion called?

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I attack all topics I consider important.

Let’s go through your list again.

Best.Korea profile: “I am against abortion(murder), religion(slavery, especially felt in islam), prisons(torture), capitalism(theft), war(waste of life), censorships(limits expression), violence(causes more problems than it solves), punishments(lead to more pain), cars(they kill people), toothbrush(damages teeth), oppression of pedophiles(they dont deserve to suffer), eating animals, imprisoning animals, other forms of cruelty directred towards animals, child circumcision(I dont think this one even needs an explanation)...

I am for equal distribution of the means of production to each worker, as only Socialism is the best way of life.
I believe in The Creator. However, this doesnt mean I consider him to be God. And I dont need to follow any religion to believe someone created us.”

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Protests have broken out across Iran over the death of Mahsa Amini, 22, held by morality police for 'unsuitable attire',

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Protests have broken out across Iran over the death of Mahsa Amini, 22, held by morality police for 'unsuitable attire',

That was one woman killed by police in Iran and the country went on protest.

Now compare that to a free democratic country like America.
US police on track to kill over 1,100 people in 2022

So Best.Korea is right. Democracies are failing.



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Get a grip ffs!

My point here is that' Persians' are openly rejecting Islam. And the death of this young women at the hands of the ' Islamic morality police' appears to have been the catalyst.


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Get a grip ffs!

My point here is that' Persians' are openly rejecting Islam. And the death of this young women at the hands of the ' Islamic morality police' appears to have been the catalyst.
The Persian women are rejecting the hijab.you can see them throwing their hijabs into the public fire pits.

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Get a grip ffs!

My point here is that' Persians' are openly rejecting Islam. And the death of this young women at the hands of the ' Islamic morality police' appears to have been the catalyst.
The Persian women are rejecting the hijab.you can see them throwing their hijabs into the public fire pits.

 Yes, I know. It was this ejection of Islam that I was highlighting. It is going to come at a high price to many more too.

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Get a grip ffs!

My point here is that' Persians' are openly rejecting Islam. And the death of this young women at the hands of the ' Islamic morality police' appears to have been the catalyst.
The Persian women are rejecting the hijab.you can see them throwing their hijabs into the public fire pits.

 Yes, I know. It was this ejection of Islam that I was highlighting. It is going to come at a high price to many more too.
The hijab is just a face covering. The women are not burning  their Qurans. Women in Iran want to be appreciated for their beauty and not be forced to coverup. We haven’t heard the ugly ones speak yet. They could justify the use of the hijab If they are the majority.

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Get a grip ffs!

My point here is that' Persians' are openly rejecting Islam. And the death of this young women at the hands of the ' Islamic morality police' appears to have been the catalyst.
The Persian women are rejecting the hijab.you can see them throwing their hijabs into the public fire pits.

 Yes, I know. It was this ejection of Islam that I was highlighting. It is going to come at a high price to many more too.
The hijab is just a face covering. The women are not burning  their Qurans. Women in Iran want to be appreciated for their beauty and not be forced to coverup. We haven’t heard the ugly ones speak yet. They could justify the use of the hijab If they are the majority.

Well as usual, you are deeply ignorant of the facts.  



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Get a grip ffs!

My point here is that' Persians' are openly rejecting Islam. And the death of this young women at the hands of the ' Islamic morality police' appears to have been the catalyst.
The Persian women are rejecting the hijab.you can see them throwing their hijabs into the public fire pits.

 Yes, I know. It was this ejection of Islam that I was highlighting. It is going to come at a high price to many more too.
The hijab is just a face covering. The women are not burning  their Qurans. Women in Iran want to be appreciated for their beauty and not be forced to coverup. We haven’t heard the ugly ones speak yet. They could justify the use of the hijab If they are the majority.

Well as usual, you are deeply ignorant of the facts
Haven’t you noticed the Iranian men are supporting the women to strip way all bodily coverings.

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Yes I did notice . The Persian men are rejecting Islam too. . 
Go look at the recent you tube videos posted about the protests and riots. Even the police are even fighting among themselves now! 
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Yes I did notice . The Persian men are rejecting Islam too. . 
Go look at the recent you tube videos posted about the protests and riots. Even the police are even fighting among themselves now! 
Seeing women burning their clothes in public is rare to Iranians. The shock is  more cultural than religious.

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True, they should have killed her for better reasons. But what is more important is she was pure and innocent and will enter paradise regardless.
Hopefully she was a virgin and will find a suitable martyr in Paradise  along with 71 other virgins in the near future.

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- Take a deep breath there buddy.
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- Take a deep breath there buddy
You are rather quiet on this subject. Are you on the side of the Iranian Morality police?

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This " labaling as a slut "  Thing.   
Imagine being a labeler. 
Orrrr 
Picture the avenues you have to tread to have someone certified as " A  slut " .  
That would take up like the wholeeee day right. 
You'd have to take your wife / daughter here then take them there. 
Allllll that messing around just so you can kill em. 

Thats why we started our first ever .  Mobile professional slut certifies company.  
SLUTY CERTIFIES.  
orrr.  
Slut securerers. 
We come to you. 
( we run a large range of test on suspected sluts ) 
Ha ha  ,  thinking about allllllllll the test one could run on females to see if they are a " slut " or not. 

No but.  
The advertising will end with someyhing like. 
Make your next killing a honorable.One .  Get your slut certified today for 4 small payments of  $19.99. 



Now picture real strict " slut certifieses ". 
And ruthless ones. 

My other company un certifies these so called " sluts " 
orrrrrrr Good women certification. 
So again.   Picture the tests  required before you can lable a person " A GOOD WOMAN " 
Buttttttttt this business will be far weaker because females must be accompanied by an Adult male in all circumstances.  
Thems the breaks.  
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Imagine never partaking in a honor killing. 
What would that be.? 

Picture how difficult it would be for blokes who don't really want to watch and or partake in  a so called " honor killing " 
The excuses. Oh the excuse 
From , you just did a honor killing a couple of hours ago 
To
Having a sore arm . 
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A Accidental honor killing.  
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A Accidental honor killing.  
Is that your conclusion that it was an accidental honour killing?

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You are rather quiet on this subject. Are you on the side of the Iranian Morality police?

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- Which subject is that?
The one you are responded to titled: The beauties of Islam.

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The one you are responded to titled: The beauties of Islam.
- The subject thus being...?

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The one you are responded to titled: The beauties of Islam.
- The subject thus being...?
According to Best.Korea the author of this thread:

So yeah, that is the beauty of islam.

The worlds fastest growing cult islam has many other beauties too:
1) praying every day for Allah not to punish you
2) getting circumcised
3) living in fear
4) living life thinking you are an insignificant dust
5) being told to sacrifice animals to Allah
6) being told that all non muslims are evil

So basically, if you like this kind of stuff, join islam. I am not gonna stop you because my belief in self-determination doesnt allow me to decide about your life for you.

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According to Best.Korea the author of this thread:
- What is it according to you?


So yeah, that is the beauty of islam.
- Haven't read the post, I figured it's BS.


The worlds fastest growing cult islam has many other beauties too:
1) praying every day for Allah not to punish you
- And for everything else too.


2) getting circumcised
- At least we don't excise our genitals castrate our testicles & mutilate our breasts... Which reminds me, some companies in France are starting to ban their employees from using water for cleaning in toilets, because it's supposedly anti-French. You gotta keep your a**hole dirty, that's the French way. The nasties always believe their ways are better.


3) living in fear
- Of God the All-Powerful in transcendence, and Love for God the All-Merciful in immanence. 


4) living life thinking you are an insignificant dust
- That's too much. All things are equally infinitely insignificant to God, anything else is delusion. We are nothing, for all things are from God, yet we are from God & for God. That is the ultimate honor & beauty in itself.


5) being told to sacrifice animals to Allah
- Rather by His name, since Life is sacred and beyond our given right, only by God's name or permission can one take it.


6) being told that all non muslims are evil
- Only God knows who is truly evil & who isn't, I don't recall Him telling us anything about that. A non-Muslim today may be a saint in God's eyes, an a pious Muslim today may be a Hell dweller in God's eyes. Nobody knows. What we have been told, however, is that 'evil' are those who know the Truth & reject it. Non-Muslims (or Muslims) who do not know the Truth or do not reject it are, hence, not punished.


So basically, if you like this kind of stuff, join islam. I am not gonna stop you
- It's not about liking. It's about the Truth. If you realize the Truth in Islam, then abide by it. If you don't, seek it somewhere else until you find it. If you're sincere you will find it, in Islam.

because my belief in self-determination doesnt allow me to decide about your life for you.
- Nonsense. You have no way of deciding people's beliefs to begin with. Instead, what you do is indoctrinate them from very young age through systematic & standardized institutions from Education to Media to Academia & so on, with your ideals & values, where no other paradigm is allowed; then dictate their practices & lifestyles for the rest of their lives through more systematic institutions like Justice & Law & Government according to *your* morality & worldview, where all others are subjugated & erased. "Self-determination" my foot.
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The one you are responded to titled: The beauties of Islam.
- The subject thus being...?
According to Best.Korea the author of this thread:

So yeah, that is the beauty of islam.

The worlds fastest growing cult islam has many other beauties too:
1) praying every day for Allah not to punish you
2) getting circumcised
3) living in fear
4) living life thinking you are an insignificant dust
5) being told to sacrifice animals to Allah
6) being told that all non muslims are evil

So basically, if you like this kind of stuff, join islam. I am not gonna stop you because my belief in self-determination doesnt allow me to decide about your life for you.
You appear to disagree with Best.Korea who created this thread.
I thought  you  would he happy someone is promoting Islam. But it appears you are more comfortable talking about other religions.
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You appear to disagree with Best.Korea who created this thread.
I thought  you  would he happy someone is promoting Islam. But it appears you are more comfortable talking about other religions.
- On the contrary.
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You appear to disagree with Best.Korea who created this thread.
I thought  you  would he happy someone is promoting Islam. But it appears you are more comfortable talking about other religions.

- On the contrary.

You are rather quiet on this subject. Are you on the side of the Iranian Morality police?