BIDEN VOTERS Were The LEAST INFORMED Voters In The 2020 ELECTION - Just Facts

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Scientific Survey Shows Voters Across the Political Spectrum Are Ideologically Deluded
By James D. Agresti
April 16, 2021

Results by Ideology of Falsehood

Among questions in which the wrong answers accorded with partisan agendas, an average of 57% of answers were liberally misinformed, while 28% were conservatively misinformed. In other words, voters were twice as likely to believe certain progressive myths than conservative ones.

For all 10 of the questions in which the electorate was most deluded, the wrong answers they gave concurred with progressive narratives propagated by the media. Moreover, the false answers they gave were often far removed from reality, not just slightly mistaken. For example, 66% of voters thought that doubling the federal minimum wage to $15 per hour would raise the average income of families in poverty by 25% or more. The real figure is about 1%.

Results by Politics, Age, and Gender

The survey also recorded voters’ ages, genders, and who they voted for in the presidential election. This allows the survey to pinpoint the segments of society that are most and least informed about specific issues. The sample size of third-party voters were too small to produce meaningful data.

The results show deep partisan and demographic divides, with different groups being more or less knowledgeable depending upon the questions.

On average, the rates at which voters gave false answers varied from 61% for Biden voters to 42% for Trump voters. From worst to best, the false answer rates for the various groups are as follows:

  • 61% for Biden voters
  • 56% for 18- to 34-year olds
  • 53% for females
  • 51% for 35- to 64-year olds
  • 51% for 65+ year olds
  • 49% for males
  • 42% for Trump voters

All of the questions, the correct answers, and the full survey results and methodologies are detailed below. The survey was conducted on November 4–11, 2020.

SOURCE (and questions with the proper answers and how people responded):
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So, in order to find a poll to confirm your bias you had to dig down through hundreds of respectable polls to come up with Triton Polling and Research.

  • Based on methodology, 538 gives Triton as C/D provisional rating for accuracy.

According the Christian Blog that paid for the poll:

A majority of voters gave the correct answer to only 4 of the 21 questions.
  • Stop right there.  If the bell curve of your test takers peaks at 20% (super F-) your test is too fucked up to accurately gauge anything.
The questions themselves are full of bias.

For example,  

Would you say that the number of strong-to-violent tornadoes in the U.S. has generally increased since the 1950s?

The Christian blogger say the the correct answer is "NO" but that's not really a yes or no question.

The correct answer is "UNKNOWN" or "IT's COMPLICATED"   Substantial improvements in weather radar technology, particular in rural areas has lead to big increases in reported tornadoes of every kind of strength since the 1950's but actual scientists caution that does not necessarily mean there are more tornadoes now that in the 50's or 60's  because there were probably many tornadoes that we could not/did not detect. 

Also the original Fujita scale rating estimates were just based on damage so tornados that hit populated areas tended to get much F3-5 ratings.  Now the same classification is made with actual windspeed measurements so some tornados that might have been and F4-5 in 1960 are only an F2-3 today.  With these factors in mind, the average number of F4-5 has remained pretty flat but this could be misleading.

But then "YES" is also a correct answer because "strong-to-violent" is both a relative characterization (even F1 tornados can kill people) and also a meteorological classification for F2-5 tornadoes .  It is certainly true that the overall number of documented tornados is way up.  It is true that number of  reported F2-5 tornadoes has stayed about the same since 1954 but that's likely misleading because of big changes in how those numbers are assessed.

The blogger turns a fairly nuanced, scientific answer into a yes or no question that just about everybody gets wrong but Public-Choice wants to place significance on the fact more Democrats got the question wrong than Republican.

Also, do tornado questions really tell us if a voter is informed about the candidates, ballot measures, issue?

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Biden voters are the most well informed voters in the 2020 elections.

Biden was Ovama’s Vice President for 8 years. Biden served in the senate for 36 years.

A LEADER IN THE SENATE

As a Senator from Delaware for 36 years, President Biden established himself as a leader in facing some of our nation’s most important domestic and international challenges. As Chairman or Ranking Member of the Senate Judiciary Committee for 16 years, Biden is widely recognized for his work writing and spearheading the Violence Against Women Act  — the landmark legislation that strengthens penalties for violence against women, creates unprecedented resources for survivors of assault, and changes the national dialogue on domestic and sexual assault.

As Chairman or Ranking Member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee for 12 years, Biden played a pivotal role in shaping U.S. foreign policy. He was at the forefront of issues and legislation related to terrorism, weapons of mass destruction, post-Cold War Europe, the Middle East, Southwest Asia, and ending apartheid.

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So, in order to find a poll to confirm your bias you had to dig down through hundreds of respectable polls to come up with Triton Polling and Research.
Oh wow, yet again it comes down to one authority vs another.

WHO COULD HAVE PREDICTED THIS CATASTROPHY?!

A majority of voters gave the correct answer to only 4 of the 21 questions.
  • Stop right there.  If the bell curve of your test takers peaks at 20% (super F-) your test is too fucked up to accurately gauge anything.
That doesn't follow. This isn't a university midterm that should be designed to be passed. Asking questions most don't know is the only way to include the extremely knowledgeable in the distribution.

But then "YES" is also a correct answer because "strong-to-violent" is both a relative characterization (even F1 tornados can kill people) and also a meteorological classification for F2-5 tornadoes .  It is certainly true that the overall number of documented tornados is way up.  It is true that number of  reported F2-5 tornadoes has stayed about the same since 1954 but that's likely misleading because of big changes in how those numbers are assessed.
The question wasn't "were more detected" it was "are there more" and you seem to be saying "YES"... but "NO"


The blogger turns a fairly nuanced, scientific answer into a yes or no question that just about everybody gets wrong but Public-Choice wants to place significance on the fact more Democrats got the question wrong than Republican.
A lot more.
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No surprise that Dream give zero shits about the quality or process or accountability of fact-finding. Dream ranks sources by their degree of conformity to his infallible biases.
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Somebody voted for Biden and it shows...

Instead of actually looking at the research, checking the links, doing some actual fact checking, Oromagi just says "if most people failed the test is flawed."

My gosh. Just Facts actually linked meticulously to their facts about the questions. They do extensive research and they include all the links.

Well, maybe most people failed because the news is full of crap. And I guess if someone reads the news a lot, like you, then they will not believe facts.

Btw, Just Facts also has a fact-checking arm called Just Facts Daily where they fact check the news. If you truly cared about the "integrity of fact checking" then you would respect this organization as well. They actually follow their standards of credibility and they meticulously document their facts with lengthy footnotes that often quote the paragraphs they took the fact from to provide context, in addition to providing the link, on their main think tank. On their Just Facts Daily they always, ALWAYS link to the primary source.

That is significantly better work than even fact-check.org does.
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From the study by Just Facts:
Since the 1950s—as far back in time as data from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration extends—the frequency of strong-to-violent tornadoes has slightly declined.

Some have claimed that tornados have become more common due to global warming, but as the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration explains, this is an artifact of “increased National Doppler radar coverage, increasing population, and greater attention to tornado reporting.”

In contrast, strong-to-violent tornadoes “would have likely been reported even during the decades before Doppler radar use became widespread and practices resulted in increasing tornado reports.” Thus, they are a more accurate and salient measure of U.S. tornado trends.

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So even with better measuring technology, more a tive tracking than ever before, and more, the number of tornadoes declined slightly.


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One more thing. I am honored you think I am James Agresti, but I'm not.

Though I'll wear it as a badge of honor, because he is an amazing researcher who runs a thinktank cited by many, MANY publications.
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What does that have to do with anything? 

Now Biden can't even string two sentences together.

Also, Rand Paul served on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and he couldn't disagree with Biden more on issues.

Being on some committee in Congress doesn't mean you're right. 

Your arguments and the facts and logic are what say you're right. 
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No surprise the guy who thinks appealing to authority is a useful argument reserves to himself the authority to decide what authorities are real.
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Who uses 538 as the gold standard? lol...
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Who uses 538 as the gold standard? lol...
Liberals do. Because Nate Silvers says what they want to be true, so he is an "expert."

Nevermind the fact he got 2016 and 2020 completely wrong, and also messed up on a lot of state elections.

He is now the "gold standard" of polling because the left says he is.

Get with the program, man!! Facts, logic, analysis, and reason don't make you right, agreeing with the dogma does!!

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It's quite interesting in some aspects how Biden voters and Trump voters respond to some of the question groups.

Take the climate change question groups for example where it's the case most Biden voters would get either the question right or wrong, whereas Trump voters seem to be split right in the middle.

The first question asks whether sea levels have risen, while the second asks whether total land area has decreased. In the face of it, if the first is true, the second must also logically follow.

The third and fourth questions follow a similar format, in that the third question queries some sort of base climate change fact while the fourth seems to lead the responder to an unintuitively incorrect answer.


To me this would indicate that Biden voters are generally more informed than Trump supporters on this topic, as it's quite clear that Biden supporters are generally in agreement with basic climate change facts, while Trump supporters are not. Given the leading nature of the second and fourth questions, I do not think that it accurately represents Trump voters as being more informed on those questions, just that they treat climate change with some level of skepticism, and I think it actually portrays Biden supporters in a better light as it shows that even if they do not have the facts at hand, they are able to make logical conclusions even if that conclusion is wrong.

I think it would've been interesting to see a breakdown between those that believe in climate change vs those that do not to see to what extent the split Trump supporter response was influenced by plain climate change denialism



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Yes. Both voter groups fell for disinformation on political topics.

Even the Trump voters got almost half of the questions wrong, and they were the MOST informed in the survey.

The survey actually asks questions that both Republicans and Democrats would get right. So it is interesting to see how ideological shift determines the chance of correctly gauging the answer of a question.

Also, FWIW, I do not deny the change in climate, I think there isn't enough evidence it is human caused.
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So let’s start off with some basics:

1.) Biased question set.

Questions 2,4,5,6,8,10,12,14,16,7,18,19,20 and 21 (2/3) have a correct option with only “liberal misinformed” options.

Only 5 questions (1/4) have only “conservative misinformed options” 2 have both.

What this means is that the survey chooses 3 times as many questions that appear targeted for liberals to get wrong as conservatives.


2.) Questions that don’t measure levels of misinformation, are “Gotcha” questions - or arguably even false.

Q5: is either a gotcha - or flat out wrong. Do other developed countries have higher standard of living for the middle class. Possibly - US regularly pegs lower on almost measures of quality of life than many developed countries - it kinda hovers around mid teens. Perhaps there is special data on specifically “middle class” and “standard of living” measurements - but I’ve not found anything obvious.

Q08 is outright wrong - do men and woman get paid the same for equal work. Gender pay gap shrinks a fair amount - but does not disappear when controlling for work. The work based gender pay gap is between 94-98%. But it’s still there.

https://fortune.com/2016/04/12/myth-gender-wage-gap/

https://www.payscale.com/research-and-insights/gender-pay-gap/

Q10. In your view, are police more likely to use lethal force when arresting black people than white people?

Higher black kill rates , but lower per stop kill rates. Sort of a sneaky question!

Q12 - funding gap in schools - is wrong depending on how you measure it; so either a gotcha or wrong.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/study-finds-black-and-latino-students-face-significant-funding-gap/2020/07/21/712f376a-caca-11ea-b0e3-d55bda07d66a_story.html

 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/report-finds-23-billion-racial-funding-gap-for-schools/2019/02/25/d562b704-3915-11e9-a06c-3ec8ed509d15_story.html


Q14 - has the land area of the earth increased or decreased? Lol wut? That’s a super esoteric science factoid; and not something I would consider knowledge indicating you are “informed”. Sea levels have gone up - so it’s not unreasonable conclude land has decreased. Seems like a trick question intended to catch people out that think sea levels have risen.

Q16 - number of strong to violent tornadoes. Again super esoteric. Tornados are up, hurricanes are up, extreme weather events are up - strong tornadoes are down. Again not a measure of how informed people are. 

Q19. Do you think average life expectancy in the U.S. rose or fell in the five years following the implementation of Obamacare?

Depends how you measure it - 5 years after all of it - yes. After first elements no. Odd that they selected 5 years, rather than “now”

Q21: is so unmittigatedly subjective it’s hilarious.

The “correct” answer - is economic downturns and revenue decreases.  Which isn’t even in the list. If you’re talking new spending and legislation - that would be tax cuts - then stimulus - then social programs.

Decrease in expected revenue - I’m not even sure is even considered, because I’m relatively sure that was bigger than increases in social security payouts + additional social programs up until 2020.  But hey!

3.) Completely unbalanced conservative questions for conservatives.

Q02. In your estimate, what portion of people who catch Covid-19 and are aged 70 and above survive from it?

Why not have a 99% option?

Q03: is covid more contagious than the flu. 

Why not deadly?

Q10. In your view, are police more likely to use lethal force when arresting black people than white people?

Why not “which race is killed not often”

Q15: Do you think that the average level of carbon dioxide in the earth’s atmosphere has risen since the Industrial Revolution in the late 1700's?

Why not add “because of humans”




This poll is ridiculous.