Black Americans vs blacks everywhere else in the world and their attitudes toward life and freedom.

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Why is it that blacks from abroad who come to America do far better than native born black Americans?

Simple answer, native born black Americans have both too much freedom that they take advantage of, and in doing so blame everyone else (namely white people) for their failures when they do not succeed where others (namely white people) have. 

Of the surviving 11 million Africans brought across the Atlantic, only an estimated 335k were brought to North America whereas the remaining 10.7 million were taken to the Caribbean and South America. Yet to this very day, no one the world over ever hears about racism against blacks except against those blacks in America.  Sure, there is some racism in other places, but it pales in comparison to the racism claimed in America against blacks. 

Growing up in the 70s into the 80s, blacks were more than present in television, movies and commercials. Yet as of late, racist self-oppressed celebrities like Jadda Pinkett Smith claims blacks are too underrepresented in the motion picture arts due to racism. Racism has nothing to do with it, but rather a lack of interest amongst their own to get into the motion picture arts. Download Brit Box (British Television) and choose any show or movie and blacks are equally, if not heavily represented in those shows or movies the same as it was in the past in America. Underrepresentation in television, movies or any other profession has very little to do with racism and everything to do with a lack of interest. 

Look at Nichelle Nichols from the original Star Trek. Did she inspire a lot of black women to become communications specialists/experts? No. Dr. McCoy inspired many to become doctors. Scotty inspired many to become engineers.  Captain Kirk inspired others to become leaders. Even Spock inspired others to get into the sciences. While Nichols broke barriers in television, especially with the first racial kiss with William Shatner, a Canadian actor, she simply did little to inspire other black girls to get into the communication fields. Which goes beyond merely answering calls and transmitting data. Far beyond it. 

Bottom line, no one in America or abroad hears about any level of racism, oppression, or supremacy experienced by blacks in America on par anywhere else in the world. Why is that? Perhaps it has more to do with how blacks in America, no thanks to the Black Panther Party and its lasting effects, have been a far more detriment to black success in America than any so-called claimed oppression or racism. The latter of which is more of a creation of (i.e., cause and effect) of black outlash than any overt oppression by the general society on the whole, or even in part. Blacks are much to blame for their own failures and problems in America than anyone else. If you raise a victim, you will always be a victim, generation after generation. 

It is of no coincidence that the number one place recommended for black Americans to move to is Costa Rica, among other Caribbean, South America and European places. Everywhere else where blacks have learned to live and let live, making a life for themselves, appreciating what life they have (which is precisely why when foreign blacks move to the US, they do far far better than native born blacks).
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Because you will find that it's the highly rich from Africa and the Caribbean moving to the US, not the severely poor.

Find out where they went to school in their homelands and the quality of that private educations. Shocking, I know.
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"foreign blacks do better than American blacks"

I mean we aren't just immigrating random Africans here. We take the most motivated and educated blacks with the highest IQs and work ethics. 

They're more successful than the average white person also. Legal immigration is tough. We literally only select the best of the best, and it's hard to compete with the best of the best from any country.

Go to one of these African shithole countries and tell me the average black person there has more chance of success in America than the average black American. You can't do it. 

Your average black American is better than your average black non American at everything. It is only when you filter out the bottom 99% of immigrants that you can start claiming the bullshit that American blacks are mentally inferior 
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Because you will find that it's the highly rich from Africa and the Carribean moving to the US, not the severely poor
Why do you insist that poor people are stupid? 
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I don't, though they do tend to grow up with less to stimulate their brains with worser nourishment to said brains, let alone bodies.

It's not poor being less intelligent anyway, you keep confusing education and opportunities for intelligence.

I explained the intelligence trend thing now, despite that not being my original stance.
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I mean we aren't just immigrating random Africans here. We take the most motivated and educated blacks with the highest IQs and work ethics. 
You mean the ones with the richest parents.
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They're more successful than the average white person also. Legal immigration is tough. We literally only select the best of the best, and it's hard to compete with the best of the best from any country.
I agree to most of this, depends what context you meant this all in.
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You mean the ones with the richest parents
I'm sure that helps. 


I don't, though they do tend to grow up with less to stimulate their brains with worser nourishment to said brains, let alone bodies

I am grew up poor in America, so I'm not going to pretend that poor in America is like being poor in the Congo, but I didn't always eat or I would go weeks on end without anything other than Ramen to eat. 

I don't even think it's possible I lost IQ points from that. Not a significant amount anyway. I did constantly read non fiction though so the brain did get some stimulation in that regard, but if nutrition made me drop 20 IQ points, that means I would probably be the smartest man alive today, and that seems very unlikely. 

Who knows. Maybe you are right though. I don't know my oldest son's IQ, but I sense that he is smarter than me so maybe nutrition did play a bigger role than I think. 
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I want you to stop with this hatred of blacks and channel it into something positive. Like hatred of gays. 
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I want you to stop with this hatred of blacks and channel it into something positive. Like hatred of gays. 
Addressing taboo topics does not = hatred for blacks, or anyone else for that matter.

There are lots of topics of conversation I can bring up about homosexuals, same sex marriage, transgenders, furry fandom, metal heads, so on and so forth. But the more pressing topic presently is the constant racial division between black and whites, and likewise blacks and cops. To me that is the more pressing issue that needs addressed and talked about with honesty than the other subjects that are behind the wizard's curtain. 

So no, I will not stop addressing the truth where blacks in America are concerned. And the fact that you even had to ask let alone phrase it as you did speaks volumes about the entire point as to why the subject needs to be talked about, honestly. 

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"Millions of sub-Saharan blacks seek to immigrate to America. They apparently haven’t gotten the memo that this is a wretched land of systemic anti-black racism.
When they get here, they’re strangers in a strange land. English is usually not their first language. Their skin color tends to be very black, not the lighter color of American blacks who have an average of about 25% white blood in them.
Despite those handicaps, they do better than American-born blacks. Compared to American-born blacks, their income is about a third higher, their poverty rates are significantly lower, their educational achievement is higher, and their marriage rate is double.
Here’s the most intriguing statistic. Although black immigrants are more successful than American-born blacks, their relative success does not get passed on to their children. Compared to the immigrant parents, their grown children work less, are impoverished more, obtain less education and are less-often married.
Why is this? Does the notorious systemic racism of America somehow target the children of black immigrants while leaving the immigrant parents unscathed?

Maybe. But It’s hard to imagine the mechanism for such selective racism targeting.
It’s more likely that the children of black immigrants assimilate into American black culture — a culture where the murder rate is seven times the white murder rate and the illegitimacy rate is 78%. The data suggest that’s a bad thing. " ~~ 

"And while there are differences among people from various African countries, when considered as a whole, the authors write, “Compared to the U.S. population, the African-born immigrant population is generally more youthful with 81.3% falling in the 18-64 age group, compared to 61.8% for the national population.”
Their relative youth is one reason why these immigrants are net contributors to American society, the authors wrote. They are “likely to exert less pressure on the country’s pension and social security system. In the absence of significant barriers to employment opportunities, African-born immigrants are strategically positioned to make a net positive contribution to the country’s social security system.”
And while relatively lower levels of development in Africa lead Americans to assume that African immigrants are less well-educated, “Data from the ACS shows that African-born immigrants aged 25 and over possess high levels of education comparable to, if not better than, the average American population.”"

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DId you even read any of your sources? dont just read the title. Second gen black immigrants do BETTER than their parents in the article article you provided.

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Yeah, I do read the sources. And you made reference to only one when there are many, clown. 

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Why is it that blacks from abroad who come to America do far better than native born black Americans?

Simple answer, native born black Americans have both too much freedom that they take advantage of, and in doing so blame everyone else (namely white people) for their failures when they do not succeed where others (namely white people) have. 

Of the surviving 11 million Africans brought across the Atlantic, only an estimated 335k were brought to North America whereas the remaining 10.7 million were taken to the Caribbean and South America. Yet to this very day, no one the world over ever hears about racism against blacks except against those blacks in America.  Sure, there is some racism in other places, but it pales in comparison to the racism claimed in America against blacks.
Based on your numbers only a small number of blacks came to America as slaves.

It is this small percentage of blacks that produced native born black Americans have both too much freedom that they take advantage of, and in doing so blame everyone else (namely white people) for their failures when they do not succeed where others (namely white people) have. 

So the majority of blacks who come from abroad are very successful and do far better than native born black Americans?

Isn’t it racist for whites  to blame this small number of native black black Americans when the majority of blacks who come from abroad are very successful and do far better than native born black Americans?

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43 million native born blacks outnumbers the few thousand that emigrate here. Get your facts straight, clown. 
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43 million native born blacks outnumbers the few thousand that emigrate here. Get your facts straight, clown
How could some 335k black slaves increase their number to 43 million?

Read your own numbers.
Of the surviving 11 million Africans brought across the Atlantic, only an estimated 335k were brought to North America whereas the remaining 10.7 million were taken to the Caribbean and South America. Yet to this very day, no one the world over ever hears about racism against blacks except against those blacks in America.  Sure, there is some racism in other places, but it pales in comparison to the racism claimed in America against blacks.

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43 million native born blacks outnumbers the few thousand that emigrate here. Get your facts straight, clown
How could some 335k black slaves increase their number to 43 million?

Read your own numbers.
Of the surviving 11 million Africans brought across the Atlantic, only an estimated 335k were brought to North America whereas the remaining 10.7 million were taken to the Caribbean and South America. Yet to this very day, no one the world over ever hears about racism against blacks except against those blacks in America.  Sure, there is some racism in other places, but it pales in comparison to the racism claimed in America against blacks.
Are you being obtuse on purpose, or are you really that dense???

1619 first slave steps foot in North America. Slavery ends in 1865. Present day is 2022. That's 403 years of procreation, you clown!!!!!
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43 million native born blacks outnumbers the few thousand that emigrate here. Get your facts straight, clown
How could some 335k black slaves increase their number to 43 million?

Read your own numbers.
Of the surviving 11 million Africans brought across the Atlantic, only an estimated 335k were brought to North America whereas the remaining 10.7 million were taken to the Caribbean and South America. Yet to this very day, no one the world over ever hears about racism against blacks except against those blacks in America.  Sure, there is some racism in other places, but it pales in comparison to the racism claimed in America against blacks.
Are you being obtuse on purpose, or are you really that dense???

1619 first slave steps foot in North America. Slavery ends in 1865. Present day is 2022. That's 403 years of procreation, you clown!!!!!
So the white slave owners were both working the slaves and breeding  them to produce more slaves locally. In that case all blacks should receive reparation because they are all descendants of slaves.
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So the white slave owners were both working the slaves and breeding  them to produce more slaves locally. In that case all blacks should receive reparation because they are all descendants of slaves.
Not how it works clown.

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1619 first slave steps foot in North America. Slavery ends in 1865. Present day is 2022. That's 403 years of procreation, you clown!!!!!

So the white slave owners were both working the slaves and breeding  them to produce more slaves locally. In that case all blacks should receive reparation because they are all descendants of slaves.

Not how it works clown.
But you just showed us how we ended up with 41 million blacks. It was 403 years of black slavery and slave procreation.

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Of the surviving 11 million Africans brought across the Atlantic, only an estimated 335k were brought to North America whereas the remaining 10.7 million were taken to the Caribbean and South America. Yet to this very day, no one the world over ever hears about racism against blacks except against those blacks in America.  Sure, there is some racism in other places, but it pales in comparison to the racism claimed in America against blacks. 
If only there was some reason those woke liberals can find as to why a country that was in large part a white racist ethnostate with a 300 year history of slavery, and 100 year history of overt Apardheid and ethnoterrorism; and is now the cultural driver of western thought talks more about racism than other places…
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Of the surviving 11 million Africans brought across the Atlantic, only an estimated 335k were brought to North America whereas the remaining 10.7 million were taken to the Caribbean and South America. Yet to this very day, no one the world over ever hears about racism against blacks except against those blacks in America.  Sure, there is some racism in other places, but it pales in comparison to the racism claimed in America against blacks. 
If only there was some reason those woke liberals can find as to why a country that was in large part a white racist ethnostate with a 300 year history of slavery, and 100 year history of overt Apardheid and ethnoterrorism; and is now the cultural driver of western thought talks more about racism than other places…
Trump won the 2016 elections on his Make America Great Again call to white nationalism and racist unity.
Trump lost 2020 even though his MAGA message was the same because racism carried a cost. It’s called reparation.

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Of the surviving 11 million Africans brought across the Atlantic, only an estimated 335k were brought to North America whereas the remaining 10.7 million were taken to the Caribbean and South America. Yet to this very day, no one the world over ever hears about racism against blacks except against those blacks in America.  Sure, there is some racism in other places, but it pales in comparison to the racism claimed in America against blacks. 
If only there was some reason those woke liberals can find as to why a country that was in large part a white racist ethnostate with a 300 year history of slavery, and 100 year history of overt Apardheid and ethnoterrorism; and is now the cultural driver of western thought talks more about racism than other places…
Trump won the 2016 elections on his Make America Great Again call to white nationalism and racist unity.
The MAGA slogan has nothing to do with so-called white supremacy, white nationalism and or so-called racist unity, whatever the fuck that means.

Trump lost 2020 even though his MAGA message was the same because racism carried a cost. It’s called reparation.
It was a rigged election, and that is why he lost. It's called cheating. 
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If only there was some reason those woke liberals can find as to why a country that was in large part a white racist ethnostate with a 300 year history of slavery, and 100 year history of overt Apardheid and ethnoterrorism; and is now the cultural driver of western thought talks more about racism than other places…
JFC! Why is it so difficult to do the math on the years of slavery. 1619 to 1965 is 264 years of slavery, NOT 300. 

The reason why they whine about racism insensately is because they take their freedom for granted and thrive off the victimhood mentality.   
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Not how it works clown.
But you just showed us how we ended up with 41 million blacks. It was 403 years of black slavery and slave procreation.
Strawman. I did not say that. Slavery is 264 years, not 300 or 403 years.
Procreation is normal human behavior. No slave owner bred black slaves like they do show horses and cattle. 
You're an Afrocentrist. A denialist. Among other adjectives that could be used to describe your attitude, lack of education, demeanor and behavior. 

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JFC! Why is it so difficult to do the math on the years of slavery. 1619 to 1965 is 264 years of slavery, NOT 300. 
Apparently it is; as 1619 to 1965 us 346 years, and 1619 to 1865 is 246…

But sure; only 10 generations of slavery in the US, followed by 4 generations of apartheid, a generation and a half of racially targeted policy as opposed to 12 generations of slavery. 4 of apartheid, 1.5 racially impactful policy.

Those 2 generations make all the difference.

The reason why they whine about racism insensately is because they take their freedom for granted and thrive off the victimhood mentality. 
Projection side; and this could blow your mind, perhaps 10 generations of slavery, 4 generations of apartheid, 1.5 of racist policies; and the institutions that have sprung up around all of them; has created a system that still is not balanced, and in the land of the free, where everyone should be equal - people want to correct it.






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JFC! Why is it so difficult to do the math on the years of slavery. 1619 to 1965 is 264 years of slavery, NOT 300. 
Apparently it is; as 1619 to 1965 us 346 years, and 1619 to 1865 is 246…

But sure; only 10 generations of slavery in the US, followed by 4 generations of apartheid, a generation and a half of racially targeted policy as opposed to 12 generations of slavery. 4 of apartheid, 1.5 racially impactful policy.

Those 2 generations make all the difference.
Well excuse the phk out of me. I made a typo and failed to proof it.
1619 to 1865, NOT 1965. 

And it is 246, not 264.
You caught a couple typos. Good for you. My bad. As I was. 


The reason why they whine about racism insensately is because they take their freedom for granted and thrive off the victimhood mentality. 
Projection side; and this could blow your mind, perhaps 10 generations of slavery, 4 generations of apartheid, 1.5 of racist policies; and the institutions that have sprung up around all of them; has created a system that still is not balanced, and in the land of the free, where everyone should be equal - people want to correct it.

LOL!!! Thanks for defining the ghastly victimhood mentality with those fictional Creepshow tales.