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@Ramshutu
First and foremost, your continuous penchant for setting up your
retorts with the obvious strawman argument by relentlessly quoting me out of
context is very sophomoric, and not without the direct appearance of being rather
sanctimonious while doing it.
The links I provided I read. You’re just reading the information within each one incorrectly by cherry-picking the part(s) you think you can pervert into a believable rebuttal to my clearly stated position(s).
“Self-Perceptions of Black Americans: Self-Esteem and Personal Efficacy on JSTOR
Self esteem high, and self efficacy lower - one data point in 1988 - does not support your argument. Contradicts pride (self Esteem), and doesn’t provide a comparator for determination. You probably didn’t read this one.
You simply do not understand/comprehend the intended purpose in citing this data. Despite the fact that it is antiquated, the underlining personal issues addressed are still very much relevant present day. I am sure you have heard of Dinesh D’Souza, if not, no matter. He wrote a well-researched book back in the 90s that expanded/augmented beyond the data provided in that link in a book entitled, “The End of Racism.” He covered a lot of data regarding most, if not all, the things I have brought up within this forum. A large portion discusses that which was covered in the cited study, that continued well beyond the 80s. Especially the phenomena of ‘Acting White.’ It was this book that really began/peaked my interest into learning more about black American history, to include my own personal experiences interacting with black Americans growing up, in the military, and afterwards.
The Legacy of Self-hatred in the Black Community - The Black Detour
Blog post opinion piece that you didn’t read - no mention of pride or determination; not about “self hate” as in hating ones self - but “hating one’s own kind”. Doesn’t support your point; the opinion traces causes of black hatred of other blacks to white racism.
Reading comprehension matters. Another example of you not understanding/comprehending that which you are reading/reviewing. Moreover, dismissing it in its entirety just because it is a blog piece is a genetic fallacy. This citation is about the self-sabotage of black Americans, an issue elegantly covered by scholar John McWhorter in his book, “Losing the Race: Self-Sabotage in Black America.” He pleaded for African Americans to address three problems he identified as – separatism, anti-intellectualism (that ‘acting white’ phenomena), and “a cult of victimology.”
Restoring self esteem and black pride - Consciousness.co.za Magazine
Another magazine opinion piece - not data. Traces cause of lack of self esteem to generational racism. You clearly didn’t even read this:
“I recently asked myself what steps we were taking as Africans to restore the self esteem of our people. These are people who’ve dealt with racism, western imperialism and marginalization; being told that they are less off and undeserving of proper human status.”
Yet another example of your lack of reading comprehension on your part. This citation speaks to John McWhorter’s subsequent book, “Winning the Race: Beyond the Crisis in Black America.” McWhorter declared in his book that “one more in the line of arguments that poor blacks’ problems are primarily due to culture rather than economics.” Another point made in his book is that, “It is a cultural matter that welfare was “the product of a system white leftists created that allowed blacks to realize the worst of human nature, in discouraging individual responsibility”—leftists such as LBJ and Moynihan, one assumes.”
Why I hate being a black man | Orville Lloyd Douglas | The Guardian
Another opinion piece. Not data. Not about pride in the sense of pride in one self, but not liking how he is perceived. Traces hate about how they are viewed being black to perception of blackness of other people and continuing racism.
You clearly didn’t read this either:
“Who would want to have this dark skin, broad nose, large thick lips, and wake up in the morning being despised by the rest of the world?”
Yea, I read it. Are you sitting there telling me that the author of this “opinion” piece, a black man, has no say or stake in this discussion? Is his experience not data? Are not the experiences of black Americans either individually or collectively, not data? According to you it appears not. So, everyone can just automatically disqualify the National Crime Victimization Survey from the Bureau of Justice Statistics then, eh!?! That is what you are inferring here with your obvious genetic fallacy.
Charles Barkley and the Plague of 'Unintelligent' Blacks - The Atlantic
Opinion piece. Not data. Not about pride. Not really about pride. I don’t think you read it.
Yet another ignorant genetic fallacy. No need to keep referring to your logical fallacies any further. They are quite clear. And rather pathetic given your clear lack of reading comprehension skills and ability to follow along with the discussion that I am presenting you.
The rest of your diatribe (to include your subsequent retort on data this, data that) is what is truly hilarious. You come off as somewhat intelligent, but when you open your mouth and speak, you sound like an ignoramus. You’re like a child afflicted with ADHD who forgot to take their medicine, completely incapable of drawing a straight line between to interrelated points.
Suggested reading list for you:
John McWhorter, Woke Racism
Shelby Steele, White Guilt
Jason Riley, Please Stop Helping Us: How Liberals Make It Harder for Blacks to Succeed
Ron Christie, Acting White: The Curious History of a Racial Slur
Erin Horvat & Carla O’Connor, Beyond Acting White: Reframing the Debate on Black Student Achievement
Candace Owens, Blackout
Brandon Tatum, Beaten Black and Blue
If you need more, I have 400 other suggestions.
