to the gun nuts here: consensus science and logic that is counter your positions

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here's a load of science that shows the consensus in science is against the gun nuts. 

it's consensus science that where there's more guns, or more people have them, that there's more murders than places that dont have guns.

it's consensus that where there's more gun control, there's less murder. 

it's basically. irrefutable that non-gun murders are in line with the rest of the world, but gun murders are wildly out of whack. if this was a bad person problem, not a gun problem, then non-gun murders would be out of whack too.  dont need scientific study for this though, this is such common sense, and it's obvious that you are just regurgitating stupid gun nut talking points, that there is something obviously wrong with your critical thinking skills.  

gun control won't stop mass shootings, as people can just regular guns, or a few of them, and go on a rampage. but it might help some. if it's too hard to get a gun (fewer guns, more restrictions), people are more likely to give up. that helps a little. 

or, like sandy hook, if they dont have assault rifles, they won't be able to shoot hundreds of spray shots with such ease in a few minutes. obviously, the benefit greatly outweighs the cost of confiscating assault rifles, given they're almost never needed for self defense. 

gun control is mostly about lessening the amount of times someone gets mad and happens to have a gun when they do, less about mass schooting. i saw two strangers kill each other in road rage before, which obviously wouldn't have happened if they didn't have guns. 

if you tell someone they can't have a gun, not everyone who is denied will run out and get one.  if they dont have a gun when they are mad, they are less likely to kill someone than if they had a knife or other weapon. it might be possible to 3d print guns, but not everyone who is denied a gun is willing to go to that level of desperation. 

this is all common sense. u need to work on your critical thinking and drop the propaganda. 


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Disarm the armed security details on politicians, reduce their personal gun usage and then we can go from there.

Rules for thee and not for me shouldn't be the bread and butter of the leftists.
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if you really want to "save lives", raise the minimum driving age to 25 (the number one killer of teenagers is vehicle accidents)

and focus more resources on suicide prevention (62% of gun related deaths are suicides)
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Disarm the armed security details on politicians, reduce their personal gun usage and then we can go from there.

Rules for thee and not for me shouldn't be the bread and butter of the leftists.
Do you support legislation that grants citizens the right to handcuff and arrest police officers on the spot, along with charges filed against any officer who resists?
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What is a gun nut exactly? 
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if you really want to "save lives", raise the minimum driving age to 25 (the number one killer of teenagers is vehicle accidents)

and focus more resources on suicide prevention (62% of gun related deaths are suicides)
Excellent!
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"Thee and me."

Funny how some people think that they are completely separate from the system that they are inextricably a part of.

Overthink, me thinks.

Left, right and centre baloney.
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Gun Nuts are very few in number, but very lethal in practice.

But if the ownership of a gun is an unalienable right.

Then you just have to be prepared to ignore the consequences of the NUT.

Which is what a lot of people are quite prepared to do.
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it's consensus science that where there's more guns, or more people have them, that there's more murders than places that dont have guns.
Less rapes break ins and strong armed robbery though when victims remove the only equalizer particularly feeble old people and women