REPUBLICANS DUCK OUT on 2024 DEBATES

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WILL THERE be PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES in 2024?
Republicans cast doubt on the prospect

David Jackson
USA TODAY

WASHINGTON – The Republican Party took a step closer Thursday to eliminating presidential debates in the fall of 2024, voting to stop working with the foundation that has organized such debates since 1987.

"The Commission on Presidential Debates is biased and has refused to enact simple and commonsense reforms to help ensure fair debates," said Ronna McDaniel, the chairwoman of the Republican National Committee.

The move underscores how former President Donald Trump reshaped and continues to reshape the GOP, with his complaints about debates in 2016 and 2020 laying the groundwork for the possible withdrawal of Republican candidates in the future.

McDaniel and other party members who voted unanimously to withdraw from cooperation with the commission said they want "freer and fairer debate platforms." But it is unclear who might organize a new set of debates and whether the Democrats and their presidential candidate would agree to a new sponsor.

The RNC is also requiring Republicans to state in writing that they will only participate in party-sanctioned debates.

The Republicans are responding in part to complaints by Trump, who protested microphone muting and other aspects of his two debates against President Joe Biden in 2020. Trump refused to participate in one scheduled debate because the commission decided to hold it virtually instead of in-person because of the COVID pandemic.

And before the series of debates in 2016, Trump said he would prefer to face Democratic opponent Hillary Clinton without moderators because they were apt to "rig" the set-up against him.

McDaniel said the party would continue to sanction debates among GOP candidates competing in party primaries. This decision applies only to general elections sponsored by the Commission on Presidential Debates.

Democrats said Republicans are just looking for excuses to avoid a presidential debate.

Jaime Harrison, chairman of the Democratic National Committee, said in a statement that "after years of having their toxic policies exposed on the national stage, the RNC has decided they would rather hide their ideas and candidates from voters."

In recent negotiations, Republicans said they wanted the first debates of 2024 to be held before the start of early voting periods. They also sought more say-so over the appointment of debate moderators, claiming past ones have been biased against Republicans.

The commission said it was set up in 1987 "to ensure, for the benefit of the American electorate, that general election debates between or among the leading candidates for the offices of President and Vice President of the United States are a permanent part of the electoral process."

Prior to Thursday's vote, the Republicans have sought to discourage corporate contributions to the commission.

When the Republicans threatened to withdraw from the process in February, the Commission on Presidential Debates said its "plans for 2024 will be based on fairness, neutrality and a firm commitment to help the American public learn about the candidates and the issues." 




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On a related, funny note, the web address for the commission on presidential debates is debates.org because this websites dead ancestor still owns the debate.org url 
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On a related, funny note, the web address for the commission on presidential debates is debates.org because this websites dead ancestor still owns the debate.org.

It is funny to think that our little cadre would have any influence in American politics, even if just a domain name.  Seems fair, though since DDO does way more debates than they do.

Perhaps that domain name will be available soon
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I would like to see an unmoderated debate like they did 100 years ago.
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You'll never see trump as toxic as he'd be in an unmoderated debate
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Good, then he would lose.
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The cult loves him too much not to forgive him.... all he'd need is a few forgiving swing voters to join in
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Well maybe if you allowed him to be toxic in an unmoderated debate, he would lose his cult.

I'm not sure why you would want to help a toxic person ruin California.
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It is funny to think that our little cadre would have any influence in American politics, even if just a domain name.  Seems fair, though since DDO does way more debates than they do.

Perhaps that domain name will be available soon. 
I don’t remember the price that Juggle paid for the Debate.org domain but I think it was in the low six figures which I think was a steal. Especially since in the last few years it seems like Google has tweaked their algorithm to direct more towards sites with articles and such but until recently if you Googled something like “abortion debate” something from ddo would come up. Lots of legacy content to get ad clicks fron
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but until recently if you Googled something like “abortion debate” something from ddo would come up
Change that to "kalam debate" and that is exactly how I discovered DDO to begin with.
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Change that to "kalam debate" and that is exactly how I discovered DDO to begin with.
In high school I once wrote a pretty half assed and pathetic case for a public forum topic and put it on DDO. It ended up being one of the top searches on Google for the topic and got many thousands of views. I was watching a debate round at a tournament a few weeks later and some kid used it verbatim lol. Spoiler alert, they lost because it was a very weak case but I was definitely shocked. Didn’t say anything of course 
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Have a far leftie and a far rightie co-moderate. It’s easy. 
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They don't debate, they give campaign speeches and zingers in close proximity to each other. We're not missing anything, except maybe body language analysis.