[Polytheist-Witch] The problem is is some people get banned for harassment and some people don't.
Yes that is exactly the problem. If a tyrannical rule is enforced equally people are generally quick to unite and stop it. It is the unequal application of rules, or rules that only matter to minorities that lead to stable oppression.
That's true for forums, towns, counties, states, nations, and planets.
[Mharman] I don't care if ADOL isn't offended (although I don't know why you still want someone on the site if they tried to doxx you)
His attempts to doxx were doomed to fail, I was not concerned about that, I was and still am flabbergasted. We were PMing and although I think it's against the rules to release the transcript he said a lot of things which seemed off, sometimes oddly friendly in one instance and then denouncing. He seemed to have me confused with someone else he remembered. I don't think he's in a healthy state of mind. People on medications and off medications can behave very erratically.
If he genuinely believed his accusations you would think he would at least make some attempt to get a confession of something out of me before he made them publicly.
What I want in general (on a debate site) is to debate. He claimed he wanted people to confront me and address my beliefs but he himself did not do so publicly. I think the rules of a debate site should be designed to facilitate debate.
Doxing and all this talk of criminal behavior have no utility towards that end. Minimizing spam, including harassing spam, does. That isn't an easy thing to do objectively, one man's spam is another's perfect argument. As hard as it would be to implement, the principle would be "if you're trying to make an argument and the argument isn't an extraordinarily obvious fallacy, it's permitted no matter what."
So if someone wants to dox me and it's no real threat but they also are willing to debate I don't want them gone. I definitely don't want them to be forced out. However I am not the only interested party. I am probably the only member that has no realistic fear of being doxxed. What happens if he takes upon himself more investigations? Even the mere accusation sent to an employer can be an big mess to sort out.
[Mharman] The dude encouraged doxxing of another user! I don't care if ADOL isn't
offended (although I don't know why you still want someone on the site
if they tried to doxx you), if Wylted gets away with it, he's going to
keep doing it.
[ILikePie5] When have you seen Wylted ever do what he did. Even the mods admit what he did wasn’t based on malice of any kind. As a mandatory reporter of Title IX, if I see something, I
say something. It’s not like Wylted was going to post it on the site
for everyone to see. He was gonna give it to the police. This sets a
precedent that if you think someone may commit a crime, you have to keep
your mouth shut and let it happen.
There are quite a few problems with this description. First "based on malice", you ever heard the saying "Most of the evil in this world is done by people with good intentions"?
Everybody is the good guy in their own opinion, it is such a universally true factor that to believe it has any relevance betrays a shallow understanding of ethics in human society/history.
I did a quick google of "Title IX" and I'm pretty sure that you would need a dangerous amount of drugs to think anything in that code created a duty for someone arguing on the internet to take onto themselves an investigation based on assumptions.
This hardly sets a precedent of keeping your mouth shut, you said "the police", did he get banned for talking to the police? No, he got banned for acting like the police. He had nothing. No evidence of crimes, no information to give, he couldn't even demonstrate the two essential claims that I was a pedophile or would ever seek sex with a minor. With tips like those the police don't need spam calls.
When have you seen Wylted ever do what he did
Well you just said "he did", so you know he just did it. What is the point of saying this? That he's not a repeat offender for doxxing so it's no big deal?
[Mharman] Besides, I don't think Wylted cared whether or not ADOL was offended by
it. His intent was to harm another user of feign doing so by trolling.
Either way, it crosses the line.
[ILikePie5] But did ADOL care? Did he report it to the mods? Not that I know of. If
someone doesn’t want help, then why do the mods have to be activists and
ban them. That’s literally what dictators do. Feign “help”
So you made all these threads based on a narrative you hadn't confirmed? You happen to be right in this case, I did not report the thread or ask for any help; but it sounds like you could easily have been wrong.
