Can't say GAY bill.

A bill prohibiting sex education to kindergarteners

has had about 10% truthful coverage, and 90% fake news. Even the president lies about this bill.

If we can't trust news on something as small as a State bill protecting kindergarteners, we surely can't trust them covering anything else. Especially the fall of Ukraine.

"Classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur in kindergarten through grade 3 or in a manner that is not age appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in accordance with state standards."

• schools must notify parents if there is a change in the student's services or monitoring related to the student's mental, emotional, or physical health or well-being
  
• (this is already established law in FL)
  
• schools may not withhold from a parent information about his or her student's mental, emotional, or physical health or well-being, or a change in  related services or monitoring, or that encourage or have the effect of encouraging a student to withhold from a parent such information, unless a reasonably prudent person would believe that such disclosure would result in abuse, abandonment, or neglect.
  
• So if a child confides in a teacher something that child does not want their parents to know, this bill compels teachers to notify parents against the wishes of the child.  I don't have a problem with this generally although I do object to big govt. inserting its big nose into matters that teachers generally handle very discretely and competently.  Republicans claim they oppose big govt. interference when it comes to privacy but bills like this expose the lie of such claims.
  
• schools may not encourage classroom discussion about sexual orientation or gender identity in primary grade levels or in a manner that is not age-appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students.
  
• So if children ask their teacher why only men get to Be President of the United States, that teacher may not reply without risking a lawsuit.
  
• Parents can sue if they think teachers have "encouraged classroom discussion about sexual orientation or gender identity"
  

This effectively ends the pedo ring of men dressing up as women for Kindergarten storytime to get a chubby around little kids.

Part of the problem is that it’s impossible to explain to a young child what “gay” or “transgender” is without also exposing her to concepts that are not appropriate for pre-pubescent children

• So if children ask their teacher why only men get to Be President of the United States, that teacher may not reply without risking a lawsuit.
  

Drag Queen Storytime....

Drag Queen story hours are still happening in Florida because nothing in this bill does anything to try to stop it. 

The bill mandates that new “comprehensive sex ed” classes must include 

women who exhibit the kinds of toxic masculinity required to be a leader usually end up destroyed by their own gender.

Drag Queen story hours are still happening in Florida because nothing in this bill does anything to try to stop it.

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Drag Queen story hours are still happening in Florida because nothing in this bill does anything to try to stop it.

Isn’t it possible that this is because the bill has not become law yet?

I linked to the text of the bill. As I stated above the law makes no mention of libraries or drag queens.  The new bill amends existing legislation regarding student health to require teachers to notify parents about kids who come out at school and prevents teachers from "encouraging " discussion of  LGBT issues in school.

“3. Classroom instruction by school personnel or third

parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur

in kindergarten through grade 3 or in a manner that is not age-

appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in

accordance with state standards.”

I think you are still missing the central point which is that Drag Queen Story Hours happen at public libraries and not schools.  That is, Drag Queen Story Hours are totally voluntary events at which it would be illegal to leave a K-3 age child unsupervised.    The state probably has no regulatory authority for that library in Houston or any of the libraries in Florida that offer this particular entertainment.

a current law  unconstitutionally restricting the capacity of schoolchildren and teacher to discuss gay rights has deceived and befuddled you just as was intended.

“Drag Queen Story Hour (DQSH) is just what it sounds like—drag queens reading stories to children in libraries, schools, and bookstores. DQSH captures the imagination and play of the gender fluidity of childhood and gives kids glamorous, positive, and unabashedly queer role models. In spaces like this, kids are able to see people who defy rigid gender restrictions and imagine a world where people can present as they wish, where dress up is real.”

You sound as if you don’t want to comprehend the distinction made in my prior post. “Instruction” is prohibited, not “discussion.”

I agree prohibiting teachers from instructing  students that LGBT have civil rights

I agree prohibiting teachers from instructing  students that LGBT have civil rights

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I agree prohibiting teachers from instructing  students that LGBT have civil rights

How did civil rights enter our discussion about young children’s education? This is known as “sneaking in a premise”— saying something as if it has been established and agreed upon as true when it has not been. If you had an intellectually honest rebuttal, I’m sure you would have posited it instead.

• Note that I brought up civil rights in my first post- before you entered the conversation.
  
• I note also that you failed to object to the inclusion of many other totally unrelated subjects- Drag Queen Story Hour, anal sex, masculine looking women, Colorado legislation, etc.
  

That is why people call it the "Don't say Gay" bill

Teachers are including LGBT people in age appropriate discussions about civil rights and civic responsibilities and those are the discussions that this Florida law is designed to censor.  

Note that I brought up civil rights in my first post- before you entered the conversation.

I note also that you failed to object to the inclusion of many other totally unrelated subjects- Drag Queen Story Hour, anal sex, masculine looking women, Colorado legislation, etc.

… and the bill only prohibits discussion/instruction regarding sexual orientation and gender identity…

-Yes, a misleading title (also a “snuck in premise” btw) which the MSM ran with to their disrepute.

Teachers are including LGBT people in age appropriate discussions about civil rights and civic responsibilities and those are the discussions that this Florida law is designed to censor.  

Cite? I would genuinely be interested to see if there is any truth at all to these claims. Either way, I believe that civil rights are universal in a nation, so the concept can and should be taught without bringing various forms of identity into the concept, especially at a young age.

I was just taking issue with your claim about DGSH— a claim you then tried to render as moot. I

• Neither you or GP has brought one scrap of evidence that this has ever  happened even once in any Florida Public School, therefore disproved.
  
• Neither you or GP has demonstrated that Drag Queen Story Hour would be censored by this legislation- would such a reading qualify as instruction regarding gender identity?  discussion of gender identity?
  
• The point is moot, always was moot until you or GP document your claim.
  

You persist in conflating “discussion” with “instruction” in the actionable aspect of the law. If you refuse to discuss the issue honestly, I’ll take that as my cue.

You persist in conflating “discussion” with “instruction” in the actionable aspect of the law.

If we can't trust news on something as small as a State bill protecting kindergarteners, we surely can't trust them covering anything else.