it is irrational to argue that there's no evidence for the afterlife

Your afterlife will be the same as your beforelife. Without a brain, you do not exist

But if the Bible parallels alien intervention, how can it be nonsense, assuming it would be a tool of the aliens? Wouldn't it be like saying, the aliens are responsible for the claim of nonsense?

Not if the bible was manipulated, distorted. I said it many times, Constantine took christianity as the Roman Empire's official religion because he saw its great potential to manipulate people. The rest is a known history.

There are lot of stuff that don't make sense because they were MADE UP by theologians. Just to mention some examples: the angels with wings don't exist, the devil doesn't exist, eternal punishment in hell doesn't exist, and so on. This is all behavioral control as if we were animals.

Nevertheless, if you compare the bible with other ancient scriptures then you can make a thorough idea of what this is about. The bible for example doesn't expand on the human creation, but other scriptures do it. So, it's always good to check on all of them.

How would you know what, if any of the bible was manipulated or distorted? If you base it on the actions of Constantine and the Roman Empire, the Gospel was also sent into Asia around the same time as it spread into Europe. However, Christianity's involvement in politics is for the most part absent in Asia. Not only in communist countries, but even in South Korea except a couple of small political parties. And the Philippines being the only country with a Christian (Catholic State religion). The churches in China are controlled by the government, the rest are underground churches. Christians in Asia don't have a different bible, and are for the most part passive politically, militarily, etc.

Something not making sense doesn't mean it's wrong. Just not understood, at the moment.

It seems you're picking and choosing which parts of the bible match with alien theology. How do you know eternal punishment is not a part of alien control of humans? For the sake of argument, maybe they would have control of (to try and use a more contemporary term) human life force after death. And that they enforce a type of punishment in the afterlife. Our various societies practice eternal punishment. A life sentence for example is eternal. We don't it call it that because we know life is temporal. But in principle, as long as the convicted party is alive, they're to remain incarcerated indefinitely. The death penalty is eternal. And even if they found the executed party innocent later on, where's the reprieve?

The idea people have about aliens making contact with us is that they will cater to our needs and interests. They will remove war, diseases, hate, and of course religion.

If that was really their plan, wouldn't they have done it by now? In fact, long ago? The Israelites thought the Messiah would free Israel from the Roman Empire. However, Jesus came to deal with the hearts of men, not providing external freedom. Maybe these aliens in the context of biblical alignment would require the same. Hold humans accountable for immoral behavior. And holding a much higher standard than we would normally place on ourselves.

Any examples?

There are muslims in Asia too. Gullible people are everywhere.

Lol. Can you see how naive your comment is?

You've just said it, this is what common people want, eternal punishment for the "disobidients". I really don't care what christians believe or not but I have to underline the contradiction in this belief because it is diametrically opposed to what Jesus taught, which is forgiveness for everyone that does bad to others. So, this contradiction lead us to think that this belief was introduced by the catholic theologians.

No doubt about it. They will sort out our problems and will impose a new way of life, and of course a new set of beliefs or phylosophy, as they did after the great deluge in Noah's times.

I'm not sure if there is going to be a deluge, what I'm pretty sure though is that these aliens will show up very soon, maybe right after the nuclear war, maybe when humanity settles down in the moon, maybe after the system collapses. Nobody knows.

Of course. They will seperate the wheat from the chaff. I would do the same if I were an alien in charge of this project.

What do you understand about inmoral behavior? Homosexuality? Atheism? I really don't know what standards they will require from us, and I don't care. I only have to say that I have no regrets, I am ready for everything that is coming. I did my best.

The sumerian tablets, the emerald tablet, the greek myths, etc.

I was addressing your apparent claim that the Bible was written to promote theocratic systems for the purpose of control due to the actions of Constantine and the Roman Empire.

Have I noticed that there are more intelligent people than in the past? Have you noticed that our intelligence has created more ways to destroy ourselves? The more intelligent we get, the more destructive capability we attain.

Impose a new way of life, even if it's against our will?

And who exactly would be represent the wheat? And who would be the chaff?

I don't know what standards they would have either. But I don't believe aliens from other planets are in contact with us. They would have either taken over our planet, or let everyone know of their existence. If they were friendly, they would show us hologram photos of their home planet, cities that would make Times Square look like a village in the Greenland, their pets with 70 eyes, and 50 tentacles, etc.

Do you think there may be truths to their scriptures?

I'm not saying it's the truth. I'm just pointing out that all the ancient scriptures tell more or less the same story.

Intelligent people don't promote wars and destruction.

What moves people to fight each other is their ego......And this is more evident among people that hold some kind of power.

Primitive christianism was already popular among people way before it was taken as the official religion. I'm not saying the Roman Empire popularized the christianism. Constantine used christainity to control, he practically imposed the religion creating dogmas that people must follow and a hierarchy that people must respect, all of it in order to guarrantee the control system.

intelligent people don't promote wars and destruction. On the contrary, the stupid leaders with inflated egos do that.

We are already living an imposed life, don't you see it? a life imposed by the sumerians, by the way. Do you think everyone enjoys living in this system of slavery? Lol.

Besides, I don't think it would be a problem for the aliens if they find people that don't want to follow through. You know full well what happen to those who don't want to follow through. Lol.

I don't know. Isn't it what Jesus said? Jesus, aka the Christ, said "But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left...", Matthew 24:36-41.

You can believe whatever you want, I don't care, I'm not interested in convincing you because I respect people's will. I only have to say that out there you can find endless testimonies of people that had contact with these aliens.

I'm not saying it's the truth. I'm just pointing out that all the ancient scriptures tell more or less the same story.

Besides, I don't think it would be a problem for the aliens if they find people that don't want to follow through. You know full well what happen to those who don't want to follow through. Lol.

Maybe you can enlighten me?

I don't know. Isn't it what Jesus said? Jesus, aka the Christ, said "But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left...", Matthew 24:36-41.

Yes, but this verse in itself doesn't explain who the wheat and the chaff were.

You can believe whatever you want, I don't care, I'm not interested in convincing you because I respect people's will. I only have to say that out there you can find endless testimonies of people that had contact with these aliens.

I know there are. Of course some will inevitably be hoaxes. A hard core skeptic will wonder why aliens would travel this far to abduct a person, or couple, use faulty hypnosis, peek through people's windows, etc.

Again, the common practice for any civilization invading another (weaker) civilization is to completely take over. Even the genius Stephen Hawking invoked a warning pertaining to extra-terrestrial contact.

what is your view of NDEs, the afterlife, and whether there is evidence for the afterlife? 

Any perception that can be used in an argument for a conclusion is evidence for that conclusion.

NDEs are therefore evidence of an afterlife, but there are other explanations for them that make fewer assumptions and have much more explicate power.

For instance we know physical truama, toxins, and biochemical imbalances can cause hallucinations and delusions.

The brain is clearly an intricate machine that is kept functioning by many control systems. When different disturbances are capable of producing the same types of errors we can see that the failure modes of the brain very often involve memories of falsehoods being 'written'. There is obviously a lot of simulation going on, what we call understanding, concepts, perception, and emotion are all subject to generation without external stimulation.


In other words, when we have an unrepeatable perception; especially when our brain is probably being disrupted (like from near death) the simplest explanation is that conditions were created similar to all of those other disturbances that we know produce hallucinations.


If these NDEs have a common theme that is easily explained by common brain structure and common beliefs. Rather than saying it confirms our religions, it is more likely that our religions and our near death delusions both come from the same subconscious structures.