How Do You Know The Bible Is True?

There's literal or factual truth, as in "Did this really happen?" or "Does X really exist?" I don't regard much of the Bible's narrative as literally or factually true, although plenty of kernels of historical truth do slip in. But even when they do, they're represented through a propagandist lens, so you have to be careful.

Then there's figurative truth -- things that ring true on some emotional or spiritual level and speak to something inside us. The Bible has plenty of this kind of truth. In fact, it would be fair to say I have seen figurative, emotional, and symbolic truth in nearly every religion I've looked at.

Miss Tradesecret,

1. The passage of Revelation 2:22-23 is attributed to Jesus!

2. The passage above is specifically stated by Jesus in murdering innocent children!

3. The passage above is therefore showing Jesus as a brutal killer of innocent children!

4. The passage above does NOT show Jesus as ever loving and forgiving, by the pure nature of what He said in murdering innocent children!

5. Parable or not, Jesus promotes the murders of innocent children!

YOUR QUOTE IN SHOWING THAT JESUS KILLS INNOCENT CHILDREN WHICH IS THE MAIN PREMISE OF MY POST #45:  “Jesus says he has given "that woman" time to repent but she refuses to do so. So he casts her on a bed of suffering. And he causes those who commit adultery with her to suffer until they repent. He indicates he will strike her children dead. And the purpose of this is to cause the churches to know that God knows all things and will provide justice. "

Thank you for agreeing with me in that our Jesus is a serial killer of innocent children in this situation in the verse in question, and your admittance thereof! Ask yourself a very simple question, in what did the innocent children do to make Jesus a killer of them?  Again, in this instance, is Jesus still ever loving and forgiving as prescribed within the scriptures?  Take your time in answering:

Since I have only so much time in addressing the Devil Speak of pseudo-christians like you, I will continue tomorrow in your continued Judeo-Christian Bible ignorance in front of the membership, and at your expense once again.

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Miss Tradesecret,

In once again addressing your apologetic Satanic spin doctoring of the scriptures, especially in you being a hell bound woman to begin with which will be another topic,  I therefore will show the membership in just how Bible inept you truly are, and at your expense once again. 

JESUS SAID:  "And these enemies of mine who were unwilling for me to rule over them, bring them here and slay them in front of me. After Jesus had said this, He went on ahead, going up to Jerusalem.….” ( Luke 19:26-28) 

1. The passage of Luke 19:26-28 is attributed to Jesus!

2. The passage above is stated by Jesus showing His killing nature!

3. The passage above is therefore showing Jesus as a serial killer!

4. The passage above does NOT show Jesus as ever loving and forgiving, by the pure nature of what He said, period!

5. Parable or not, Jesus promotes the murders of others, period!

YOUR GRASPING FOR STRAWS QUOTE ONCE AGAIN: “Context. Firstly, ask yourself the correct questions - who wrote it - who was he writing to - what was the purpose of the writing. What kind of language is this?”

A.  Who wrote it:  Jesus did as our serial killer Yahweh God incarnate: “And we also thank God constantly for this, that when you received the word of God which you heard from us, you accepted it not as the word of men but as what it really is, the word of God.” (1 Thessalonians 2:13)

B.  Who was He writing too:  To His disciples and His Jewish following since Jesus returned ONLY for the Jews.

C.  What was the purpose of the writing:  It relates to the punishment of those who would not have Jesus reign over them subsequent to His Second Coming, even though it was supposed to happen within Jesus' time period (Mark 13:30-31), but didn’t, and where we are still waiting 2000 plus years later, where therefore Jesus LIED in the Mark passage.

D. What kind of language is this:  Hebrew or Aramaic, which really doesn’t matter in the first place because what Jesus said, is what He said in mentioning the murders of others that do not want Him to rule over them, get it?

YOUR REVEALING QUOTE MAKING JESUS A SERIAL KILLER IN THAT YOU AGREE WITH ME:  "…. then perhaps you might start to understand the context and what Jesus is specifically saying.”

The context and what Jesus is saying to His disciples, and Jewish followers ONLY, that anyone that does not want Him to rule over them upon His assumed Second Coming, is to bring them hither and slay them in front of Jesus!  Get it? Huh?  Or does 2+2 for you equal 3?

Now, let me easily school you once again,  the above proposition is regarding when Jesus finally does come back to earth in His late Second Coming, but it will be in a very drastic murderous bloody mess when He does as horrifically shown below: 

Miss Tradesecret, YOU and other Bible stupid pseudo-christians will even know what Jesus will look like when He returns! Jesus will have a "golden girdle," tsk, tsk, white hair, eyes of fire, feet of brass, and a sword sticking out of his mouth.  That’ll really put the fear of the Lord into those sinners that didn’t want Jesus to rule over them, where Jesus cleaves them in two for not believing in Him! Praise!

WAIT, Jesus is gonna put those Hollywood monster-movie producers to shame with His ghoulish creations when he returns with a bunch of horse-like locusts with human heads, women’s hair, lion’s teeth, and scorpion’s tails! They’re gonna be stinging unbelievers straight for a whole 5 months, OUCH! (Revelation 9:7-10)

Then our loving and forgiving Jesus will send four blessed angels with an army of 200 million to murder a third of the earth’s population. Way to go loving and forgiving Jesus! (Revelation 9:15-19). STOP, Jesus is not done yet, where in His Second Coming, He will have people killed by fire, plagues, and beasts. There will be dead bodies rotting and unburied everywhere. Those that are not brutally murdered by Jesus will “rejoice over them (non christians) and make merry, and shall send gifts to one another.” (Revelation 11:5-10).

Miss Tradesecret, can an ever loving and forgiving Jesus, as proposed within the scriptures ad infinitum, allowed to say such graphic murdering words and in showing horrifically what will happen to His Jewish creation upon His return, and still be loving and forgiving?   

Your answer is, don't be scared: _________________________________________________________

Miss Tradesecret, 

YOUR DECEIVING QUOTE AS USUAL TO JESUS’ ACTUAL DIRECT WORDS AS SPOKEN: “V 1 tells us the pharisees had come to Jesus enquiring about Jesus' disciples - why don't they wash their hands according to our religious rules? And Jesus response - why do you break the rules of God.”

WHOOPSIE AGAIN! In your insidious quote above you forgot to add the rest of what Jesus said which is  “….. For God commanded, saying, 'Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death."   WOW, as if we didn’t see you HIDING from the biblical truth again by not including ALL of what Jesus truly said!  You are disgraceful once again!

Therefore, the tradition that Jesus was talking about, and that was commanded by Jesus in the Old and New Testament, was when the following inspired passages were written by Him (1 Thessalonians 2:13) relating to the verse in question, which were the following:

: “For anyone who curses his father or his mother shall surely be put to death; he has cursed his father or his mother; his blood is upon him.” (Leviticus 20:9)

New Testament passages that were current in the time of Jesus relative to Matthew 15:1-4 are as follows:

YOUR BLATHERING MUMBO JUMBO DISCOURSE: “The first thing to note is - there are rules of tradition or rules of the church - and then there are rules of God.  Rules of man v rules of God. The so called religious leaders - had been judging the disciples for breaking man's rules while they had been breaking the rules of God.  Jesus points this out to them - reminding them how hypocritical this judgmentalism is.   He was calling attention to them - stop with the nonsense - and start listening to God.   This is what v. 8-9  is about - as Jesus recalls an OT passage. The Pharisees - were very religious on the outside - according to the rules of man - but were evil on the inside - by ignoring the rules of God ..............  jabber, jabber, jabber, yada, yada, yada, zzzzzzzzzzzz  ...............   

You are correct! Therefore, you are NOT to ignore the rules of Jesus as God incarnate, therefore you are to  murder any offspring if they curse their parents as commanded by Jesus in the above passages and the following passage: “For God commanded, ‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, ‘Whoever reviles father or mother must surely die.” (Matthew 15:4). See, that wasn't that hard for you to understand? Or, was it? LOL!

Miss Tradesecret, your problem has always been that you think the membership is as dumbfounded of the Bible as you are, therefore you can push your “Devil Speak attorney prattle” to others that are as inept to the Bible as you are, and therefore they swallow your lies!  But, as continually shown, I do not accept your outright lying tongue to Jesus' TRUE words as spoken, understood dear?

Miss Tradesecret, as usual, you are once again guilty of the following inspired by Jesus passage:  “For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.” (2 Timothy 4:3)

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Stephen,

YOUR ONCE AGAIN REVEALING QUOTE ABOUT THE TOTALLY MISGUIDED MISS TRADESECRET:  "Exactly Brother. If  Christian's  such as the Reverend "tradey" Munchausen weren't so backward as to have adopted an ancient megalomaniac jealous god of war that will kill and maim at the drop of an hat, that they had absolutely no understanding of, from a time they had absolutely no understanding of, and from a culture they have absolutely no understanding of  and renamed him Jesus, they wouldn't have the dilemma of having to excuse the vile and abhorrent nature of  the man Jesus that they also call  "the one true god that existed from the beginning".

As we have unfortunately seen ad infinitum within this forum with Miss Tradesecret, she is a Burger King Christian, where she wants her JUDEO-Christian Bible her way, and not Jesus' way, whereas she will pay upon Judgment Day!

As we are both aware, in Tradesecret being a biblical second class woman, she is not even supposed to be within this forum in the first place, especially in telling the superior men like us in what she thinks the Bible says, which as shown over and over again, is always incorrect where we have to correct her biblical ignorance to no end!  

Since Tradesecret is a sister of Eve, this is what Jesus' inspired words think of her:  “ Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence." (Timothy 2:11-12).  With this passage alone, Tradesecret is going against Jesus' doctrine against women in not learning her place in Christianity as being inferior to man!

Another incident where Jesus' inspired words state with specificity that women are not worthy of life, and where there will be NO WOMEN in heaven: “Simon Peter said to them: Let Mariham go out from among us, for women are not worthy of the life. Jesus said: Look, I will lead her that I may make her male, in order that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. For every woman who makes herself male will enter into the kingdom of heaven. (Thomas 114).