My platform - any and all code-of-conduct enforcement should be uniform - regardless of the individual being considered and regardless of where they posted
your scathing critique is requested
In your personal opinion (or, perhaps you prefer the term 'objective analysis') is Wylted or myself closer to you in this regard, specifically with our approach to the Religion Forums?
Furthermore, is it possible that you could make it clearer what precisely you'll do?
I believe a primary and significant reason for this is that the members who are active there are so accustomed to a mentality of 'the mods won't care if I complain' that they start to see the only way to handle it as quietly posting around these abusive members or actively retaliating by flaming them back in a flamewar, with a lot of sarcastic commentary combined with direct insult.
What is your take on this situation and the approaches he and I take? I believe I am closer to you than to him, from my own perspective.
However, if there has been non-uniform attention and effort towards moderating (short of pure banning) within a community that exists on the website, there is already an imbalance that needs to be set to the other direction, do you not agree?
non-uniform enforcement of the past cannot be rectified by non-uniform enforcement moving forward
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If you have a very neglected child or pet animal, it is very advisable to be extra attentive and sensitive to them when helping them recover.
Do you agree that being approachable and recognisable to other users matters as the President of this website, who is meant to be the person they turn to whenever they feel moderation isn't doing their job?
Please tag me when you make your campaign thread.
you seem to be under the impression that "DebateArt.com President" will be in some position to tell the moderators what they should dothis is not the casethe moderation team can over-rule any recommendations that "DebateArt.com President" might be inclined to suggestmaintaining the full faith of the moderators is just as important as maintaining the full faith of the community"DebateArt.com President" has no leverage whatsoever over the moderators
Are you capable of proving your ability to use discretion. The ability to use discretion is important to a working relationship. Let's say you earn whiteflames trust and he starts leaning heavy on you as an advocate for users he interacts with less than you.A lot of those conversations may be very private and ugly facts about users could come out that was only the privy of mods. Say whiteflame concludes a particular case of harassment is not harassment and the user should go unpunished. You guys fight hard over it and he basically says "fuck you, not banning the harasser " . Your only two options are1. Drop your argument and let the harasser get away with itOr2. Air your personal grievances with whiteflame publicly and break his trust and ruin the relationship necessary for a working relationship.Will you and can you be trusted to take option 1.I know I have the ability to maintain that relationship with whiteflame and have previously proven it as I have interacted with him a lot off site and we have both told each other personal things, and both of us have seen each other never betray that trust. Can whiteflame trust you like he trusts me, so a working relationship is possible?
Which of the 2 do you lean to and why?
Exactly, do you agree his scenario was ridiculously worded in order to bait one into either admitting to being totally corrupt or admitting to violating privacy?
It is not at all, for you yourself were incapable of answering it due to how abusively it juxtaposes two immoral things.
what exactly do you believe might be "accomplished" by making private details of user accounts public knowledge ?
any and all code-of-conduct enforcement should be uniform - regardless of the individual being considered and regardless of where they posted
i cannot speculate on your state of mind and or any hypothetical future actions you may or may not initiatei cannot speculate on your opponent's state of mind and or any hypothetical future actions they may or may not initiatei will not act as a moderator for DebateArt.comi will act as an advisor to the moderators and an advocate for UNIFORM ENFORCEMENT
you seem to be under the impression that "DebateArt.com President" will be in some position to tell the moderators what they should dothis is not the casethe moderation team can over-rule any recommendations that "DebateArt.com President" might be inclined to suggestmaintaining the full faith of the moderators is just as important as maintaining the full faith of the community"DebateArt.com President" has no leverage whatsoever over the moderators
My platform - any and all code-of-conduct enforcement should be uniform - regardless of the individual being considered and regardless of where they posted
Well stated. RationalMadman is overestimating the capacity of the office, thus demonstrating a lack of awareness. You're being honest about what you can and intend to do, as opposed to engaging demagoguery to curry favor. And I agree with you as it concerns the capacity of the office that having the trust and faith of the moderators is just as important as having the trust and faith of the community over which you would preside.