Delusion = Success!!

Author: 3RU7AL 6 years ago

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3RU7AL

11.14.2018 05:04PM

Please do not post your answers to these questions.

I found this interesting because people who score low on this test seem to be more successful socially.

Self-Deception Questionnaire

Gur, R. C , & Sackeim, H. A. (1979). Self-deception: A concept in search of a

phenomenon. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 37. 147-169.

Questions: (not at all) 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 (very much so)

1. Have you ever felt hatred toward either

of your parents?

2. Do you ever feel guilty?

3. Does every attractive person of the

opposite sex turn you on?

4. Have you ever felt like you wanted to

kill somebody?

5. Do you ever get angry?

6. Do you ever have thoughts that you

don’t want other people to know that you

have?

7. Do you ever feel attracted to people of

the same sex?

8. Have you ever made a fool of yourself?

9. Are there things in your life that make

you feel unhappy?

10. Is it important to you that other people

think highly of you?

11. Would you like to know what other

people think of you?

12. Were your parents ever mean to you?

13. Do you have any bad memories?

14. Have you ever thought that your

parents hated you?

15. Do you have sexual fantasies?

16. Have you ever been uncertain as to

whether or not you are homosexual?

17. Have you ever doubted your sexual

adequacy?

18. Have you ever enjoyed your bowel

movements?

19. Have you ever wanted to rape or be

raped by someone?

20. Have you ever thought of committing

suicide in order to get back at someone?

Mopac

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Mopac

11.15.2018 04:58PM

What exactly is this perverse test supposed to determine?

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ethang5

11.15.2018 05:34PM

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@Mopac

Its a disguised test for homosexual tendencies.

Only questions 1, 2, 6, 7, 9, 11, 12, 14, 16, 18, 19, and 20 are pertinent. The others are controls.

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11.15.2018 06:43PM

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These psycho folk sure have a strange preoccupation with buttseks.

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11.15.2018 07:05PM

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@Mopac

What exactly is this perverse test supposed to determine?

People who score low on this test seem to be more successful socially.

The questionnaire was designed to identify people who lie to themselves (delusional).

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11.15.2018 08:05PM

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So in other words, the correct and honest answers are presumed, and anything that goes contrary to these assumptions is considered a sign of self deception?

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11.15.2018 08:30PM

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@Mopac

So in other words, the correct and honest answers are presumed, and anything that goes contrary to these assumptions is considered a sign of self deception?

At least according to Gur, R. C , & Sackeim, H. A. (1979).

And probably Alfred Kinsey, Sexual Behavior in the Human Male (1948) and Sexual Behavior in the Human Female (1953).

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11.15.2018 10:53PM

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Alfred Kinsey... self professed atheist, bisexual, in an open marriage..

Yeah, sounds like a pervert trying to justify himself with pseudoscience.

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11.15.2018 11:51PM

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@Mopac

Everything must be viewed through the perverted lens that is religious belief, good for you.

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11.16.2018 03:30PM

Have you ever felt hatred toward either

of your parents?

Yes 7.

2. Do you ever feel guilty?

Yes 7

3. Does every attractive person of the

opposite sex turn you on?

Yes 7

4. Have you ever felt like you wanted to

kill somebody?

5. Do you ever get angry?

6. Do you ever have thoughts that you

don’t want other people to know that you

have?

7. Do you ever feel attracted to people of

the same sex?

8. Have you ever made a fool of yourself?

9. Are there things in your life that make

you feel unhappy?

10. Is it important to you that other people

think highly of you?

11. Would you like to know what other

people think of you?

12. Were your parents ever mean to you?

13. Do you have any bad memories?

14. Have you ever thought that your

parents hated you?

15. Do you have sexual fantasies?

16. Have you ever been uncertain as to

whether or not you are homosexual?

17. Have you ever doubted your sexual

adequacy?

18. Have you ever enjoyed your bowel

movements?

19. Have you ever wanted to rape or be

raped by someone?

20. Have you ever thought of committing

suicide in order to get back at someone?

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11.16.2018 03:31PM

What does that say about me

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11.16.2018 03:33PM

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I don't know how to score it. Am I gay based on the test

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11.16.2018 04:23PM

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Your answer to q#1 was high. The idea is that homosexual men have repressed hatred for their mothers.

Your answers in q#3, Does every attractive person of the

opposite sex turn you on? Yes 7

...has tension with q#7. Do you ever feel attracted to people of

the same sex? 1

It idea is that if every attractive person of the opposite sex turns you on, the attractiveness of people of the opposite sex should turn you on too. Thus you are denying the attraction you feel.

Your answer in q#12, Were your parents ever mean to you? 7, conflicts with your answer in q#14, Have you ever thought that your parents hated you? 1

The idea is that if you think your parents were mean to you, even if only sometimes, a score of 1 on q#14 is not the truth. This is consistent with the idea that you are repressing how you feel.

On q#16, Have you ever been uncertain as to whether or not you are homosexual? Your scored yourself the lowest. 1

But on q#18, Have you ever enjoyed your bowel movements? You again scored yourself the lowest.

The idea is that homosexuals unconsciously associate the anus with pleasure, and thus often report they enjoy their bowel movements. You may not see it at first, but q#16 asks,

A¹. Have you ever been uncertain as to whether or not you are homosexual?

Hidden inside this question is this question,

A². Have you ever been uncertain as to whether [you are] not homosexual?

The idea being that a man with homosexual tendencies, being more tuned to homosexuality, will more likely interpret q#16 as A², the second way.

I don't know how to score it. Am I gay based on the test?

According to the test, you have latent and repressed homosexual tendencies due to early difficulties with your mother or a mother figure. And that if you ever did act out your homosexuality, you would more likely enjoy being a catcher, and not a pitcher.

Please, before anyone starts insulting me, this is not my test and I do not agree with it. I am not expressing my opinions about wylted. He asked, I answered.

No offense wylted.

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11.17.2018 02:26AM

If I were queer, you are Dann right I would be a catcher, why even bother being queer otherwise. Seriously you can bang girls in the ass, if you are going to be gay, man up and take it in the rear.

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11.17.2018 02:36AM

You can sig that

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11.17.2018 02:59AM

Thank you for that answer. It was very interesting, let me clarify a few points though.

Your answer to q#1 was high. The idea is that homosexual men have repressed hatred for their mothers.

I hated my dad for a while. He was an abusive drunk.

the idea is that if every attractive person of the opposite sex turns you on, the attractiveness of people of the opposite sex should turn you on too. Thus you are denying the attraction you feel.

Seems silly, being attracted to every woman who is attractive, if anything makes me like a super hetero. I even fuck fat chicks, so you know. I just like the vagina, and it's easy to turn me on if you have one.

Your answer in q#12, Were your parents ever mean to you? 7, conflicts with your answer in q#14, Have you ever thought that your parents hated you? 1

The idea is that if you think your parents were mean to you, even if only sometimes, a score of 1 on q#14 is not the truth. This is consistent with the idea that you are repressing how you feel.

I was always told I was their favorite, by both of them which is fucked up, because they wouldn't hide that favoritism from my siblings. When my dad was mean and beating me, I still knew he loved me and he would even say such while beating me or depriving me of sleep in his manic episodes. I just thought he couldn't control his rage and that he was a bad person, just a bad person who loved me.

I have no defense for question 16, LOL they got me there.

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11.17.2018 01:50PM

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Your answer to q#1 was high. The idea is that homosexual men have repressed hatred for their mothers.

I hated my dad for a while. He was an abusive drunk.

Could it be you blamed your mom for not protecting you?

Seems silly, being attracted to every woman who is attractive, if anything makes me like a super hetero.

It means you have a high libido. The fact that it's any woman means the woman doesn't matter, the sex does. If it's just the sex, highly attractive men will set off your response too whether you like it or not. So you over compensate by being hyper on vaginas.

I was always told I was their favorite, by both of them which is fucked up

Tough childhood. How is your relationship with your siblings now?

I have no defense for question 16, LOL they got me there.

I best not say anything here.

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11.17.2018 02:16PM

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Could it be you blamed your mom for not protecting you?

No, I have always blamed myself for bad events that happen to me or anyone around me. Plus my dad kidnapped us, so it wasn't her fault she wasn't around

Tough childhood. How is your relationship with your siblings now?

Okay, I guess,

It means you have a high libido. The fact that it's any woman means the woman doesn't matter, the sex does. If it's just the sex, highly attractive men will set off your response too whether you like it or not. So you over compensate by being hyper on vaginas.

There is literally nothing attractive about men. I have no clue why woment want to fuck us. I understand the logic behind it though.

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11.17.2018 02:52PM

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Plus my dad kidnapped us,....

Would you mind telling us about it? If it's too personal then excuse me. I just find people very interesting.

Was your dad foreign?

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11.17.2018 02:59PM

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No he was American and him and my mother would kidnap me and my siblings back and forth after their divorce and before any custody hearings happened. I guess my dad got tired of losing so the last time he did it, we drove 3000 miles to Florida. It was a perfectly legal kidnapping, so perhaps it shouldn't be labeled one, but it sure seemed like one.

One day my mom would show up to pull us out of school early, the next day my dad would show up at a grocery store with a cop to grab us while we were shopping. They both constantly used the police to help with kidnappings. The police were just there to make sure that neither my mom nor dad interfered physically with the other parent grabbing us. Sometimes a parent could get all 3 of us, sometimes only one, but there were 3 of us so they could always get atleast one

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11.17.2018 03:29PM

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Wow. Like a movie. Any step moms or step dads in the picture?

If you had been asked, which parent would you have preferred to stay with?

How old were you when yo left home?

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11.17.2018 03:54PM

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I would have preferred to stay with my mom, but when given the choice I always picked my dad because my siblings picked my mom and I was concerned about his feelings being hurt. I wanted him to know we loved him despite preferring mom.

I was 16 years old when the state declared me an adult and emancipated me. I gained full custody of my siblings at 16

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11.17.2018 03:54PM

Step dad's yes. No step moms

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01.02.2019 07:56PM

Link to source podcast - https://www.wnycstudios.org/story/91612-deception

[DOWNLOAD LINK]

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01.06.2019 04:53AM

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I got 49... Can you tell me what that means without me having to watch the podcast.

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01.07.2019 02:11PM

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The range would seem to be from 20 to 140.

49 would seem to be near the high end of self-deluded which suggests you are more socially conscientious and therefore more likely to succeed in matters that are deemed important to your social group.

A score closer to 140 would suggest that you are more honest with yourself and significantly less socially conscientious and therefore less likely to succeed in matters that are deemed important to your social group.

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01.07.2019 06:05PM

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Interesting, but i answered those questions pretty honestly... i mean, i sure within a point or two mistake if anything. It's funny how it is deemed self-deluded since it was pretty honest. But in any case, i like the affirmation that i will succeed =)

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