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@Stephen
It's up to the Judge to decide if it matters.
Rittenhouse Trial
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Are the defence arguing that it ( the better quality footage) furthers/proves their case?
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@Stephen
Yes.
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@Greyparrot
Then lets hope you have a sound level headed judge.
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@Stephen
As I understand it, if a verdict against Rittenhouse is revealed, the defense has a lot of grounds for an appeal or mistrial.
Just watched this poor guy get decked while trying to defend his property in Kenosha. Maybe young Kyle had it right?
I think I would find him innocent but I would never approve of why and how he was there.
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@Stephen
Just watched this poor guy get decked while trying to defend his property in Kenosha. Maybe young Kyle had it right?
Like the prosecution said during the trial. If you live in a Democrat state, everyone takes a beating sometime.
Like the prosecution said during the trial. If you live in a Democrat state, everyone takes a beating sometime.
Where did they say this?
Obviously you inserted the 'democrat state' part but where did they say this? Was this genuinely said?
In a rebuttal argument, James Kraus, one of the prosecutors in the murder trial of Kyle Rittenhouse, indicated that Rittenhouse should not have defended himself with a firearm because “everybody takes a beating sometimes.”
Man dies from skateboard beating. He didn't defend himself.
In a rebuttal argument, James Kraus, one of the prosecutors in the murder trial of Kyle Rittenhouse, indicated that Rittenhouse should not have defended himself with a firearm because “everybody takes a beating sometimes.”
Yes, I followed it through to this link and that is absolutely appaling wording. I'm not defending it at all, I know what he meant and what he said was absolutely idiotic wording.
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@thett3
He strapped himself with an AR15 because he knew he’d probably have to use it.That’s just baloney. That’s like saying you put on a seat belt because you knew you’d probably get into a car accident.
We’re arguing in circles so I’ll just recap the problem as follows… You simultaneously;
A) paint the rioters as dangerous rapist armed thugs who are out to hurt and kill people while burning down entire neighborhoods, and
B) hold that Rittenhouse heading straight into the lions den with an AR15 loudly displayed around his chest was no reason for him to think he’d find himself in a situation where he’d have to use it.
It’s a mind blowing contradiction, but once accepted I can see how the rest of your view comes together.
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@cristo71
Would there happen to be anyone else you believe shouldn’t have been there in the first place?
Everyone who was not peacefully protesting
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@thett3
Jury tampering is disgusting, no matter which side does it. I agree with you on that.
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@Double_R
Everyone who was not peacefully protesting
Their presence motivated Rittenhouse’s presence.
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@cristo71
Their presence motivated Rittenhouse’s presence.
Exactly. If not for the actions of the dumpster fire arsonists, there would be no need for anyone to be there.
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@Double_R
A) paint the rioters as dangerous rapist armed thugs who are out to hurt and kill people while burning down entire neighborhoods, and
Fair enough, I don’t actually think this though. The people out that night ranged the full spectrum from peaceful protestors to people causing minor mayhem, to hardened criminals. And mob mentality can do a number even on otherwise law abiding people. Rittenhouse just got really really unlucky with who he ran in to
Great post from another forum. In this context, mistake theory means that both sides on a political issue are operating in good faith, and merely have a disagreement. Conflict theory is the idea that the difference is actually…well, a conflict and people are going to try to win by any means necessary.
“This is the Mistake theory mindset, which, as this case shows, is an inaccurate way of modeling politics. There is no way a reasonable person trying to assess the truth, having examined all the evidence and testimony presented in the trial, could conclude that Kyle is guilty beyond reasonable doubt. But the reality is that facts don't matter, logic doesn't matter, the law doesn't matter.
This is a politically-relevant case, therefore the behavior of the people involved can be only understood in terms of Conflict theory: leftists believe that rioting, looting, arson, battery, are valid tactics for them, and only for them, to use as part of the political process (e.g. "riot is the language of the unheard", "In Defense of Looting"). Kyle is a young white man obviously coded as working class and right-wing, this alone already puts him in the camp of the leftist tribal enemies ("basket of deplorables"). Moreover, he was out that night with a rifle as part of a group of armed men who were not only defending property (let's be honest, this isn't about property) but also standing in overt defiance against the leftist shock troopers, which is something that the leftist elites can't tolerate.
Therefore, the same people who talk about defunding the police and say that the criminal justice system is injust, want to use the criminal justice system to destroy Kyle and make an example out of him in order to send a clear message that leftists rioters are not to be defied: if the mob attacks you, just curl into a ball and take the beating, as one of the prosecutors literally said.
The prosecutors operate according to Conflict theory, and whoever juror is preventing the jury from acquitting operates according to Conflict theory.”
The jury has reached a verdict.
NOT GUILTY
COMPLETE AND TOTAL EXONERATION
Thank God
This was the correct verdict. As much as the left will complain, whine, and cry for mommy, Rittenhouse did not do anything wrong in the scenario he was put in.
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@ILikePie5
Bicep boy arrested for felony DUI....
These are the people that society needs to protect?
Biden is such a disgusting rat. I’m embarrassed that I ever fell for his affable “working class Joe” schtick
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@Double_R
Whether he should or shouldn't have been there is of no relevance to the case.
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@Bones
Neither is the conversation you are chiming in on.
I gotta say, after 4 days of deliberations, I was getting very concerned with this unsequestered jury. My faith in our system is being sustained a bit…
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@cristo71
I gotta say, after 4 days of deliberations, I was getting very concerned with this unsequestered jury. My faith in our system is being sustained a bit…
Well not to be a buzzkill, and we'll find out if/when jurors do interviews, but the long deliberation suggests to me that it was a very close run thing. Given the extreme weight of evidence towards acquittal that's still very concerning. But it's possible they were just (over)doing their due diligence.
Still, I couldn't keep a smile off my face when I learned of the verdict. Justice was served
I wouldn't be surprised if the hold up was someone whose position was "he shot one of them in the arm, why couldn't he do that to the others??" lmao