what's ur favorite anime out of the big 3.
one piece, naruto, or bleach.
personally im a big fan of bleach.
1. bleach
2. one piece
3. naruto
all 3 are really good tho
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i dont like like mainstream anime much and dont have the attention span to watch 1 thousand episodes of one piece or 200 of naruto so ill say bleach even though i haven't finished it
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@Crocodile
One Piece would be my favorite of those three. Naruto is a somewhat close second, Bleach a distant third.
One Piece is probably the best example of worldbuilding I've seen in anime. It's incredible at juggling so many aspects of the world going on at once, I feel that each of the arcs builds emotional stakes beautifully, and its progression doesn't come with the sudden and somewhat world-breaking power-ups that come with the other two. Despite being incredibly long, it's held onto a lot of what made it great in the first place while expanding on its power system well. It lags behind both Bleach and Naruto in terms of great fights and I'd say that its emotional moments don't measure up to Naruto's, but on the whole, it's just a better story with more to sink you're teeth into. Also, probably the least offensively bad filler of the three.
Naruto honestly has some of the best fights of any anime and some of the strongest emotional beats to boot. If this was about which series had the best moments, it would be my easy choice, but taken as a whole, the series is really inconsistent for me. A lot of what made Naruto great was eschewed for spectacle almost immediately in Naruto Shippuden, the story went in some really wonky directions that led to one of the worst twist villains near the end of the series, and it just generally became known for having too little willingness to kill off major characters. That plus the numerous plot holes and some truly heinous filler set it back a few paces.
Bleach is the saddest one on this list. As a concept, it's my absolute favorite of the three, and if you only look through the Rescue Rukia Arc, it's a contender against both of the above series. I probably wouldn't hate on it as much (though it would still be in third) if my only experience with it was the anime. The fights range pretty widely in quality, but there are some solidly great ones in there, and the emotional beats hit hard when they land. Aside from some hype moments in the Hueco Mundo Arc, I was just generally disappointed by the turns the story took through arcs after the Soul Society, but while there were problems, there was nothing particularly terrible, just some lackluster plots and boring filler. Unfortunately, I also finished the manga, and that's what sets this series back. It has one of the worst endings I've seen, and I can only hope that the anime revival will dispense with it entirely to do something original. In the absence of that, Bleach remains one of the more frustrating series I've watched/read.
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@Crocodile
By purely canon alone I would say Naruto. Naruto had some strong moments constantly throughout the series with some of the most epic moments in anime. Yes this is talking series as a whole so this does include filler, but even that, some of Naruto's peaks peak very high on the mountain of iconic, even in Shippuden. No one can tell me Pains Arc wasn't beautifully scripted. I'd even argue that some of the war had it's great moments besides what whiteflame said about the twists. I think Shippuden had more impactful moments but Naruto had better overall arcs. Naruto is like baking cookies and a good amount turn out nearly perfect while some turn out like nightmare
One Piece is very much consistent. There are no turns with One Piece and the fights are relatively weak in comparison to Naruto, but the world building, mystery, and character relationships are done extremely well. Long pacing to form coherent arcs to a degree. It's the same formula used but make it unique to the situation. It makes One Piece really good because of that consistency and because of that, it's almost like baking cookies and they turn out good. Nothing special, just good
To clarify, I wouldn't put any of these three in my top 10. One Piece would have to have a pretty spectacular ending to make it there since, as Supa said, it's got pretty formulaic arcs and the anime at least (the manga's better at this) has major pacing problems, despite being the best of these in my book. That being said, they each have some of my favorite moments and characters in anime, and they became the Big 3 for a reason. While other series have risen to take the places of Naruto and Bleach, I'd be hard-pressed to say that we have a Big 3 today, though if we did, it would be somewhere between One Piece, Jujutsu Kaisen, Demon Slayer, My Hero Academia and Attack on Titan, so a good set, but certainly more spread out. Add in the newcomers that are likely to make a splash like Chainsaw Man and you'd be hard-pressed to come down on just 3 big ones.
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@whiteflame
The closest show in my Top 10 from the Big 3 is Naruto.
I think the reason a lot of people wouldn't put Big 3 in the Top 10 because of the pacing really. It's the main reason why One Piece isn't in my Top 10.
I think each series I watched has it's issue. When you have such long series' that have lots of arc, formula will tend to run dry and you have to use the same formula but in different scenarios. One Piece actually attempted to do such a thing, and I think Naruto had some very creative arcs but some where just inconsistent overall
I think the reason FT is so much worse than OP is because OP tries to deviate from the same try and true formula in every arc. Also One Piece's world building is superior to any anime series, let alone Shonen, especially FT. One Piece uses the formula but is able to make it interesting with the world they are in and the situation. It's consistent with One Piece
Naruto has a different arc for almost every event. From the Chunin Exams to the Retrieval for Sasuke, and the Pain Arc, each has a different overarching theme and arc that makes the series so much enjoyable and fun when the arcs hit in Naruto
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@Vader
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@ILikePie5
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@Vader
The closest show in my Top 10 from the Big 3 is Naruto.I think the reason a lot of people wouldn't put Big 3 in the Top 10 because of the pacing really. It's the main reason why One Piece isn't in my Top 10.I think each series I watched has it's issue. When you have such long series' that have lots of arc, formula will tend to run dry and you have to use the same formula but in different scenarios. One Piece actually attempted to do such a thing, and I think Naruto had some very creative arcs but some where just inconsistent overallI think the reason FT is so much worse than OP is because OP tries to deviate from the same try and true formula in every arc. Also One Piece's world building is superior to any anime series, let alone Shonen, especially FT. One Piece uses the formula but is able to make it interesting with the world they are in and the situation. It's consistent with One PieceNaruto has a different arc for almost every event. From the Chunin Exams to the Retrieval for Sasuke, and the Pain Arc, each has a different overarching theme and arc that makes the series so much enjoyable and fun when the arcs hit in Naruto
I agree with some of this, though I think Naruto's efforts to be creative didn't always hit, and there were some pacing issues as the series went on. The resolutions for some fights were especially infuriating as well, particularly with issues like Talk no Jutsu and somehow surviving impossible circumstances. Not going to go through specific instances of either, but while the fights themselves were amazing in most instances, I felt that, more often than not, they just didn't end satisfyingly. I feel like One Piece does a better job on the resolutions, even if its fights aren't up to that level. Not to say that I'm dismissive of what Naruto did as a series, I just don't think that it's up to the standard One Piece sets for how its arcs play out, even if they're similar to one another. That being said, the original series of Naruto would end up outstripping most of what I'd say is top tier One Piece.
As for Fairy Tail, yeah, I'd agree with that.
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@whiteflame
Talk no Jutsu most OP Jutsu in Naruto
But yeah I'd agree with it. I think the Land of Waves Arc was Zabuza was pretty egregious. But even with cases like Nagato and even Obito, I don't think were too bad. I also could be missing some others since it's been a minute since I've watched Naruto
Ehhh I wouldn't say Naruto's endings to arcs haven't been unsatisfying. Maybe the 2nd Sasuke Retrieval and for sure the infamous War Arc, but I have been satisfied with Naruto's arc endings
- Naruto
- Bleach
- many other animes
- One Piece (hideous animation style and overly simplistic dynamics (villains are 'evil' and heroes are 'good' etc)
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@RationalMadman
One Piece (hideous animation style and overly simplistic dynamics (villains are 'evil' and heroes are 'good' etc)
To each their own when it comes to animation, though I personally like it quite a bit. However, based on your impression of the dynamics of the series, I can bet you haven’t seen much of it. Many characters challenge that good vs. evil dynamic, even if the central cast is seen as all good (which, by the by, is true of all these series).
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@whiteflame
Naruto and Bleach show good and evil in almost all characters.
Even a literal Fascist like Danzo is shown to be an antivillain as opposed to pure villain, even Nagato. Perhaps the only 'true evil' in those series are the likes of Zetsu and Aizen (if you don't think Zetsu is evil, you haven't watched enough so I won't spoil).
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@RationalMadman
Naruto and Bleach show good and evil in almost all characters.Even a literal Fascist like Danzo is shown to be an antivillain as opposed to pure villain, even Nagato. Perhaps the only 'true evil' in those series are the likes of Zetsu and Aizen (if you don't think Zetsu is evil, you haven't watched enough so I won't spoil).
Not here to debate this, but suffice it to say that I disagree, both with the characterization that One Piece characters are usually transparently good or evil and that there basically aren’t any transparently good or evil characters in Bleach or Naruto (I wouldn’t say Aizen and Zetsu are the only two examples).
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@whiteflame
Just to be clear, that's just the start of my issues with One Piece.
I think the mechanics of fighting in One Piece are so utterly outrageously nonsensical that plot armour is basically able to be stretched (ironic, given what Luffy's power is) to unjustifiable proportions in order to guide the storyline where they want it to go in any 'showdown'.
To a degree, I think RM is right but I also think that's the beauty in One Piece
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@RationalMadman
Just to be clear, that's just the start of my issues with One Piece.I think the mechanics of fighting in One Piece are so utterly outrageously nonsensical that plot armour is basically able to be stretched (ironic, given what Luffy's power is) to unjustifiable proportions in order to guide the storyline where they want it to go in any 'showdown'.
Oh I agree, plot armor is a problem in One Piece. It's also a problem in Naruto. It's also a problem in Bleach. Basically, I haven't seen a long-running series where it isn't a problem.
Please just tell me which of the following visually appeal to you and seem like the design style of characters was superior:
Naruto art/fanart sample to explore character design quality
as we both know that's barely tipping the surface of how beautiful and intricate they did each character and what each can be envisioned as
Now, let's look at...
Bleach art/fanart sample to explore character design quality
One Piece art/fanart sample to explore character design quality
If you think I have been unfair in my selection, that's fine. I went for 6 of each, trying to get fanart that kind of matched the proportions to the real anime well while being visually appealing.
To me, there is a very clear gap between the design quality of the former 2 to the latter. One Piece is often said to be weak visually due to Oda preferring realism, yet I find the realism is weakest in OP vs the other 2 of the 'big 3'. That is my opinion, you are of course entitled to yours. I ask you to present examples that prove my bias wrong or whatever.
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@Vader
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@ILikePie5
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@RationalMadman
Suffice it to say that I've seen a lot of variation, particularly in the quality of fan art, within these series. Each series has their highes and their lows, and I guess which one(s) you jive with are based on what type of animation you appreciate most. I'd say that Bleach was probably the best of these when it was at its best, but I'd also view all 3 as pretty solid series on the whole. I think each has their advantages, but I don't mind if you disagree.
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@whiteflame
Naruto: Ninja ethos LOYALTY ABOVE ALL ~ power and efficiency of the collective over honour, individuality and hedonism. Morally grey, family/clan/village over everything.
Bleach: Samurai ethos ~ honour and elegance of the collective over power, individuality and hedonism. Two variants of Samurai ~ the kind who fight for the glory itself (Shogun-sided feudalists) and the kind who fight for a combination of socialist endgame in mind for the collective and defending the working peasant against the ruthless Shogun elite (Emperor-sided pseudo-pacifists). The Emperor and Shogun were united originally and the idea was the an Emperor was himself psychopathic and seeking to conquer all but this ethos began to shift from late 1500s onward towards a more socially concerned type of emperor.
One Piece: Meant to be Pirate ethos ~ freedom and plesaure of the individual over honour, the collective good and efficiency.
Actually is only that for the villains. The heroic characters aren't like pirates at all, they are much more akin to Samurai.
Only the villains in One Piece live by the ethos of the subculture it is meant to represent. This is one of the many issues I have with the series.
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@RationalMadman
Agreed on Naruto.
I’ve got a lot of issues with what motivates Ichigo, but generally agreed on Bleach.
You’re right about what is the ethos of One Piece, you’re wrong that the central crew is motivated by honor. They commit honorable acts, but they’re motivations are usually not honorable. They’re very much individualistic or crew/friends > others. The end result is often good for more than just them, but that doesn’t mean that that was their aim from the start.