I think the vacciene is better for preventing covid and given that conservatives tend to be the tried and true party, they ought to support vaccienes more than Ivermectum.
Covid vaccine vs Ivermectin. Which is better for treating covid?
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Never heard of Ivermectum before. According to Google it is an anti-parasitic medication. Who is suggesting that it be used to treat coronavirus?
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Joe Rogan said he used ivermectum to try and treat covid.
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@TheUnderdog
On the one hand, we have peer-reviewed studies showing the efficacy of vaccines against covid-19. On the otherhand, we have a talkshow host's anecdotal evidence. I mean...
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@TheUnderdog
Joe Rogan said he used ivermectum to try and treat covid.
I don't know who that is but he sounds fucking stupid.
no conservative is taking ivermectin, its just joe rogan
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Nice.
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@Dr.Franklin
I thought conservatives, especially Trump conservatives w3ere taking ivermectum.
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@TheUnderdog
wrong, most conservatives just take it as a meme for joe rogan
they both have their place.
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@Dr.Franklin
did you see covid only put Joe on his ass for 24 hours because of that? Shit it must be doing something, according to the media, covid is almost a death sentence, but Rogan basically has a 24 hour bug after taking the horse pills
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@Discipulus_Didicit
He's basically an ape just look him up.
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@dustryder
YOU HAVE BEEN MICROCHIPPED
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Never heard of Ivermectum before. According to Google it is an anti-parasitic medication. Who is suggesting that it be used to treat coronavirus?
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@TheUnderdog
Covid vaccine vs Ivermectin. Which is better for treating covid?
- There are 300 versions of the vaccine under development. If we take the most effective vaccine- Pfizer–BioNTech prevents 95% of all mild symptoms related to a COVID-19 infection and 100% of all deaths from COVID. Taking the Pfizer–BioNTech vaccine has resulted in zero deaths and mostly very rare and very mild side effects. These facts establish Pfizer–BioNTech as one of the most effective medicines in the history of mankind- far more safe and effective than aspirin.
- "studies found that ivermectin could inhibit replication of SARS-CoV-2 in monkey kidney cell culture with an of 2.2–2.8 μM. Based on this information, however, doses much higher than the maximum approved or safely achievable for use in humans would be required for an antiviral effect. Aside from practical difficulties, such high doses are not covered by current human-use approvals of the drug and would be toxic, as the antiviral mechanism of action is considered to operate by the suppression of a host cellular process, specifically the inhibition of nuclear transport by importin α/β1. Self-medication with a highly concentrated formula intended for horses has led to numerous hospitalizations, and overdose can lead to death, possibly due to interaction with other medications. To resolve uncertainties from previous small or poor-quality studies, as of June 2021, large scale trials are underway in the United States and the United Kingdom"
- There's a Turkish study out- Looks like 6 out 30 people-
- hospitalized with COVID-19 pneumonia,
- taking a large course of ivermectin alongside hydroxychloroquine
- died
- The control group of 30 took hydroxychloroquine only
- and 9 out of those 30 died.
You ask Which is better for treating covid?
so...try this for one rough measurement :
hydroxychloroquine only: 9 out 30 died
hydroxychloroquine + ivermectin: 6 out of 30 died
Pfizer–BioNTech vaccine: 0 out of 30 died
which medicine would you take?
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@TheUnderdog
-->@Discipulus_DidicitJoe Rogan said he used ivermectum to try and treat covid.
SUBMITTED for EVIDENCE: One perpetually stoned podcaster did not die from ivermectin overdose. Shall we base our decision on the weight of such knowledge?
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@dustryder
On the one hand, we have peer-reviewed studies showing the efficacy of vaccines against covid-19. On the otherhand, we have a talkshow host's anecdotal evidence. I mean...
agree. Rogan is anecdotal
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@Discipulus_Didicit
You don't know Joe Rogan? Do you listen to podcasts?
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@Dr.Franklin
no conservative is taking ivermectin, its just joe rogan
I don't think that's true, doc-
In response to widespread misuse, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, U.S. Centers for Disease Control, World Health Organization, American Medical Association, American Pharmacists Association, and American Society of Health-System Pharmacists issued statements in 2021 warning that ivermectin is not approved or authorized for the treatment or prevention of COVID-19 and advised against its use for that purpose outside of clinical trials. Ivermectin has been pushed by right-wing politicians and activists promoting it as a supposed COVID treatment. Misinformation about ivermectin's efficacy spread widely on social media, fueled by publications that have since been retracted, misleading "meta-analysis" websites with substandard methods, and conspiracy theories about efforts by governments and scientists to "suppress the evidence."
On September 1, 2021, health experts from the United States expressed concerns from reports of sharp increases in outpatient prescribing and dispensing of ivermectin with respect to levels before the pandemic. These experts explain that the CDC has not authorized or approved ivermectin for the prevention or treatment of COVID-19.
another case where we agree Rogan is anecdotal
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@Wylted
-->@Dr.Franklindid you see covid only put Joe on his ass for 24 hours because of that? Shit it must be doing something, according to the media, covid is almost a death sentence, but Rogan basically has a 24 hour bug after taking the horse pills
I nominate Wylted for MASTER of DISINFORMATION.
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@oromagi
SUBMITTED for EVIDENCE: One perpetually stoned podcaster did not die from ivermectin overdose. Shall we base our decision on the weight of such knowledge?
People just need to know how to dose properly. If you dose properly, it's relatively harmless. I'll take an iverctim tomorrow. I don't care. Not paying for it though, I'm broke you'll need to find a way to mail it to me.
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@Wylted
People just need to know how to dose properly. If you dose properly, it's relatively harmless. I'll take an iverctim tomorrow. I don't care. Not paying for it though, I'm broke you'll need to find a way to mail it to me.
times are turbulent, man. hang in there.
. It looks like that drug does help with covid though. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.researchgate.net/publication/348230894_Ivermectin_reduces_the_risk_of_death_from_COVID-19_-a_rapid_review_and_meta-analysis_in_support_of_the_recommendation_of_the_Front_Line_COVID-19_Critical_Care_Alliance&ved=2ahUKEwjVpYukrfPyAhV_TTABHSniD3s4ChAWegQICBAB&usg=AOvVaw3HM4qhjdG9Os5KMYMv5UEk
The scientific community as usual is just showing an abundance of caution. However if dosed properly it is harmless, so zero down sides. Worst case scenario, it doesn't work. Best case it saves your life.
I propose one theory regarding the right's hype of hydroxychloroquine
$$ hydroxychloroquine only: 9 out 30 died
$$$ hydroxychloroquine + ivermectin: 6 out of 30 died
$ Free now pay tax later Pfizer–BioNTech vaccine: 0 out of 30 died
Nobody's making any money off the most effective medicines. Therefore, the only place for money to be made is in less effective medicines that can only be sold to more gullible groups. It's not like somebody wasn't going to try to make that money- that gullible money is always out there.
I see your anecdote and call you:
YESTERDAY: NEW MEXICO SUSPECTS FIRST IVERMECTIN DEATH
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@oromagi
You don't know Joe Rogan?
Besides what is in this thread? No.
Do you listen to podcasts?
Not really. If this Joe kid is anything to go off of I don't seem to be missing much.
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@Wylted
The scientific community as usual is just showing an abundance of caution.
he says like that's a bad thing
However if dosed properly it is harmless,
...and entirely ineffective. You have to mega-dose on ivermectin to kill COVID, like screw up your liver mega-dose.
so zero down sides.
unless you call fucking up your liver a downside
Worst case scenario, it doesn't work.Best case it saves your life.
Do you know which medicine saves your life 24 out 30 chances and costs hundreds or thousands of dollars? Ivermectin.
Do you know which medicine saves your life 30 out 30 times for free? Pfizer-B.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
He's pretty famous: actor, gameshow host, pothead
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@oromagi
Do you know which medicine saves your life 24 out 30 chances and costs hundreds or thousands of dollars? Ivermectin.
So, let people spend their money how they want
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@Wylted
->@oromagiDo you know which medicine saves your life 24 out 30 chances and costs hundreds or thousands of dollars? Ivermectin.So, let people spend their money how they want
Sure, let the people spend so long as it's not FOX pretending it's news, so long as the government has effectively communicated that there's a free and highly effective solution and is allowed to broadcast that fact without contradiction from the mere profiteers.