At what point is it far enough for you right-wing nutjobs to call it racist and too far?

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Actually one of my favorite rappers, Vinnie Paz, who is Italian-Philadelphian (he's Italian-Sicilian by blood, immigrated as a young child) and knew many blacks growing up, still close friends with them, agrees with you on this.

He argues that the problem at its core is overly catering to the lazy ones and giving nearly 0 genuine assistance and availability of opportunities to the hard-working blacks who want to 'climb the ladder' of society. He isn't black himself but has grown up among many of them and I think that at least the latter part of what he argues is indeed true. 

Just to be clear, I'm not sure of his stance on BLM (he's definitely not entirely against it) but he is much more about anarchy than he is about stable progressivism.
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here's a powerful piece by him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_Q-DUj9OHw
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Another stance he holds is that prison itself is a corrupt trap for the poor to stay stuck while the rich profit off of them.

I feel this is only a critique of privatised prisons but it depends how you interpret what 'publically funded' is, if you're an anarchist.
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"Racist" is a nonsense, malicious term, btw: Racism is a nonsense, malicious term v2.0 (debateart.com) . It would be better to use sensical terms like "racial hatred" or "racial bias", instead of nonsense.
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It would be better to use sensical terms like "racial hatred" or "racial bias", instead of nonsense.
does that make a racist feel better about themselves being racist?

Then I don't give the slightest shit.
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does that make a racist feel better about themselves being racist?
"Racist" is a nonsense, malicious term: Racism is a nonsense, malicious term v2.0 (debateart.com) .

Then I don't give the slightest shit.
You sound very cool and intimidating swearing like that.

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You sound very cool and intimidating swearing like that.
And you sound real edgy and creative with the ways you can avoid admitting racism is a real thing and that those that act on it, as well as advocate for it, are toxic to society.

Go Mesmer, go mesmer go.
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@RationalMadman
Actually one of my favorite rappers, Vinnie Paz,
You'll love this,

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here's a powerful piece by him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_Q-DUj9OHw
Good stuff,

Here's the same message in 3 minutes,

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And you sound real edgy and creative with the ways you can avoid admitting racism is a real thing and that those that act on it, as well as advocate for it, are toxic to society.
"Racism" is a nonsense term.

"Racial hatred" and "racial bias" exist, but "racism" doesn't mean anything coherent, hence it's nonsense.

The only reason you keep saying it is because you've been brainwashed by far-left extremist anti-white ideology.

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"Racism" is a nonsense term.
You can't keep saying this and ALSO insisting that "racerealismisobjectivelytrue".
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You can't keep saying this and ALSO insisting that "racerealismisobjectivelytrue".
Why not lol?
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You can't keep saying this and ALSO insisting that "racerealismisobjectivelytrue".
Why not lol?
People who hate and or have a strong preference against a realobjectiverace are objectivelyracists.

In other words,

(IFF) RACE IS REAL (THEN) RACISM IS REAL
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People who hate and or have a strong preference against a realobjectiverace are objectivelyracists.

In other words,

(IFF) RACE IS REAL (THEN) RACISM IS REAL
No lol.

"Race" refers to a real biology.

"Racism" doesn't mean "people who hate and or have a strong preference against" races. "Racism" is a nonsense term Racism is a nonsense, malicious term v2.0 (debateart.com) . It's just a word people use when others refer to race and they get upset. You should actually read the thread's OP so I can walk you through why it's nonsense (and also malicious).

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(IFF) RACE IS REAL (THEN) RACISM IS REAL
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Yeah, I didn't like the song that everyone knows IT for, I felt it went too far for no real reason but his more politically geared stuff (as opposed to 'violent for the sake of it' stuff) I do respect.

One problem is just musically, I'm not a fan of his delivery and melodies.
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(IFF) RACE IS REAL (THEN) RACISM IS REAL
Wrong xD

Don't do a Ragnar now and keep repeating your conclusion over and over -- it doesn't make you any more right.
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Don't do a Ragnar now and keep repeating your conclusion over and over -- it doesn't make you any more right.
Don't do a Mesmer now and keep avoiding the point over and over -- it doesn't make you any more right.
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(IFF) RACE IS SUBJECTIVE AND ARBITRARY (THEN) RACISM IS SUBJECTIVE AND ARBITRARY
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Seems to me, race is an invented concept of convenience to segregate when all - black, white, asian, latino, etc, etc, if one wants to insist on those meaningless labels, are all considered by scientific classification as Homo sapiens, and not Homo sapiens nigreos, or Homo sapiens album, or whatever.

So, what's the point of further classification than for personal satisfaction of superiority, which is utter, complete, and absurd purpose? Thought and action demonstrate superiority, in its most altruistic sense, regardless of skin color, or any other natural, physical characteristics of which no one is personally responsible, or even capable. They were inherited, not manipulated by us, individually. And individually is ultimately the source of all racial discrimination.

The only criticality of CRT is that it is critically flawed since, as noted above, it is non-existent outside the mind, which can, at will, create fantasy as easily as fact.
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it is non-existent outside the mind, which can, at will, create fantasy as easily as fact.
JUST LIKE GOD.
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Since we are made in that image...

And I suppose that means we can ultimately be like God in all respects.
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@949havoc
Labrador and german shepherd are both breeds of the same species, dog.

Race is the term used for 'breed' specific for the human species. It's merely a semantic thing but race is indeed real, anyone who designs different medicines for different races regarding diabetes and blood pressure amongst other things knows that, as do foundation and lipstick makeup companies.
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anyone who designs different medicines for different races regarding diabetes and blood pressure amongst other things
How will the half-breeds get "the right medicine" ?
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Even within labrador and german shepherd (also known as Alsatian), there are different sub-breeds or race of the breed of dog.
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It is actually complex and requires testing to see which race their organs and blood behave closest to, out of their mix.
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It is actually complex and requires testing to see which race their organs and blood behave closest to, out of their mix.
It's much more complex than you think.

You can't diagnose someone purely based on their their skin-tone.

HOwEVER,

You can most certainly Hate SOMEONE purely based on their skin-tone.
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Labrador and german shepherd are both breeds of the same species, dog.

Race is the term used for 'breed' specific for the human species. It's merely a semantic thing but race is indeed real, anyone who designs different medicines for different races regarding diabetes and blood pressure amongst other things knows that, as do foundation and lipstick makeup companies.
This is proof that even anti-white far-left people can sometimes be based.


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He is obviously being intentionally provocative, and it looks like you took the bait.
  I can get madman's sentiment though. It gets annoying constantly seeing "the Jews" this and "the Jews" that.