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@MisterChris
You need to character claim
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@Vader
Greyparrot's obsession over Pie seems a bit "over the top." I'm not really reading Pie as scum but I also am not hard town reading him. Seems like typical Pie town behavior. Not forcing any lynches and being extra pushy with questioning. 
GreyParrot know's SupaDudz first rule of Pie as well as we do so why's he threatening to jail?

Also, we know Pie is not scum because he hasn't lol'd once.  3rd rule of Pie.
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@Wylted
the justification of mine refers to a fight. I noticed everyone's did but polys. However you are saying that your justification does not involve a fight your person is in, so my theory was wrong.
It could be that they are scum
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Millers should be a last resort lynch unless we find a better candidate worthy of lynching. 

I'm in total agreement with Supa on Poly. Miller has been included so often in DART mafia I'd have a hard time believing scum would be brave enough to immediately claim it + claim a character without having had been provided ANY fake claims according to Lunatic.

As far as I'm concerned this actually speaks to Polygot being TOWN. On the other hand, I'm suspicious of Wylted's response to Poly's claim. Either he didn't think this over at all, or he is gunning for a mislynch.

VTL Wylted.
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@MisterChris
Why have you not character claimed yet?
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Only if you don't count that SJW who thinks computers are racist as one of my alts. Kinda pisses me off he was wrongfully banned because David is incompetent 
David's word vs Wylted's word.... which do you think I'm going to trust?
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@ILikePie5
It could be that they are scum
Correct or maybe just oro. Poly's kinda refers to a fight
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@MisterChris
it's relatively safe to claim miller if the scum team has no God father. 
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Shit.. pie hasn't lolled, didn't notice.

UNVOTE
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@oromagi
he was concluding it was me based on stuff like "similar ideology". 

I dont doubt David is stupid enough to think that guy was me
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@oromagi
Why not?  If I'm not confirmed DP3 you already have your lynch. 

You are usually more thoughtful than this. If you waited to claim you could've kept info away from SCUM, limiting their ability to claim early on... Also, you could have tried to attract a NK to waste scum's time with a weak role. 

It does appear scummy that you would claim this early... if it weren't for the fact there's just so much unknown for the scum team right now I'd be inclined to think you were fake claiming. But, since you claimed so early despite the scum team not being given fake claims, I'm inclined to think you are TOWN, similar to Poly...
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@oromagi
If everybody else's wincon is "You are a town member" then I think we should lynch whiteflame

My wincon is phrased differently. 
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Unvote vtl mrchris
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Oromagi               Julian Lane      INNOCENT CHILD
TOWN
greyparrot           James McSweeny     JAILKEEPER
Polyglot                 Kamaru Usman      MILLER
drlebronksi
Whiteflame
Supa
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Earth                       Junie Browning
Wylted
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SCUM

VOTE COUNT

Oro- 1 /6- poly
Poly- 1/ 6- wylted
Pie- 1/ 6- grey
Greyparrot- 3/ 6- , oro, drlebronski
MrC- 1/6- Pie, WF,Wylted


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@MisterChris
My wincon is phrased differently. 

state it, please
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@oromagi
So....if the rest of us DONT have a proper justification, then perhaps the fact that GP has one could be more scummy.

I have one in the sense that the context given points to my role... I don't have a "because of ___, you are ___" though.
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my wincon is the same as it was last game: you win with the town.

Just saw this. I guess good job oro though you risked fucking it up

VTL whiteflame
Another clear SCUM moment from Wylted. Sounds like we each have variations of wincons (mine is "You are affiliated with the town.") to prevent the rabbit hole of PM analysis that Lunatic hates so much. Wylted insta-voting Whiteflame over this just adds to my suspicion that he is SCUM.
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@MisterChris
This is the fifth time I am asking you. What is your character?
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A nice flip-flop from Wylted...
"Whiteflame giving his wincon so fast is to his credit actually so lean town with him."

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@MisterChris
yes my opinion changed with new information. You will be lynched if you don't claim though. You are on everyone's shortlist of scum. 
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Would you be willing to lynch mr chris. We should should start narrowing the pull of lynch targets. Judging by the order of your list that is the most overlap between me and you. 

The phrasing here... "Would you be willing to lynch"


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Let’s get a character from Chris. It’s the least he can do for his inactivity 

It's Chris Leben, whoever that is lol

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My opinion can also change with more thorough examination of the same points and no new information. I also tend not to filter my thoughts and to post them as they come, so ofcourse they will be erratic and ever changing. 
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@oromagi
I plan on jailing pie.

why would town say this?
At the very least this would role-confirm him.
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@ILikePie5
Why have you not character claimed yet?

Why do you think? I was on like page 5. 
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@Wylted
it's relatively safe to claim miller if the scum team has no God father. 

we've had loads of games with Miller but no godfather, plus you have to account for SCUM having the balls to character claim without ANY prior knowledge. 
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@MisterChris
Why do you think? I was on like page 5. 
You’re clearly caught up now. Claim.
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@MisterChris
Chris needs to learn about my unorthodox approach. My philosophy on mafia is rather. Here are 3 random rules.

1. Miller should be policy lynched on dp1

2. Lynches should not be based on h
Who you scum read, but on people that are not on your townlist until later DPs when accuracy becomes more important.

3. RVS is unacceptable.  There is always a good choice for who to pressure early
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@MisterChris
At the very least this would role-confirm him.

Not so- Pie pointed out that if he's scum he's probably Roleblocker.  So it would confirm Roleblocker aspect but JAILKEEPER (which is far more often town than mere RB)
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@ILikePie5
I did. Read above.