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@Earth
I am Junie Browning 

I note that Browning's nickname is "the lunatic"

Thematically significant, perhaps?  His DDO username is also referenced.
Any other TUF usernames anybody knows?
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@Wylted
 Poly's justification is absolute shit.
Poly's justification works for me- saying he's doing one thing when everybody can see he is doing something else kind of matches MILLER
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@oromagi
what is your justification 
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GP should be on oro. Best case we get an extra confirmed town on dp 3. Worst case oro is scum and is unable to use his ability 
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@Polyglot
 I don't understand the reasoning for Oro to claim Innocent Child so early. 
DP3 is a long time out in a 10 man game.  If we haven't caught any scum by DP3 we're in bad shape- probably 4/2 MYLO and LYLO.  As Wylted points out, if I get pressured in DP1 or DP2 (very likely in a 10 man game) and claim- it looks a lot scummier than if I just come out up front.  Even if people are wondering about me, they'll probably be willing to wait for confirmation.  In addition, it was Friday night and two claims were already on the table and I'm sort of contrarian in that I think TOWN is better oversharing and looking for standouts than undersharing (worked last game), so I just went with it hoping to promote a quick DP1.
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It's so hard to read Wylted behaviorally that he's going to be in my neutral list. When I town read him last game he's scum. I have no clue how to read him though he's giving off similar vibes to his last game but with more caution, so it leads me to believe he's more town
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Greyparrot's obsession over Pie seems a bit "over the top." I'm not really reading Pie as scum but I also am not hard town reading him. Seems like typical Pie town behavior. Not forcing any lynches and being extra pushy with questioning. 
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@Wylted
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Plus, I'll say it again. I don't understand the reasoning for Oro to claim Innocent Child so early. If he is who he claims to be, he will be automatically confirmed in DP3, he could have played undercover until he got the official reveal from TUF. There was absolutely no need for him to role claim. So my vote remains on Oro. 
He is a modwit. Low on the mid part. He is an individual with an IQ of 115 who thinks of himself as smart because he found some smart people he agrees with and copies their reasoning. It's why earth knew he would choose to protect chris over himself and targeted him. Any intelligent person would have known we were going to know he was targeting chris and would instead target him, but he targeted chris anyway. Idiots always do the obvious move in situations that should be wifom. 

He claimed innocent child because he lacks imagination. Much better to have waited. Plus, no swapping out the stated mafia wincon for a town one is not something he would have gone. That is taking an overly risky shot in the dark of guessing the town wincon. Oro would not have done it. Nor would pie have corrected him, if pie was scum. He wouldn't have known to.

Oro and pie are confirmed town. Look elsewhere. 
Debate Rating: 1448  If we add up all your alts losses and avg its even lower.


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@Wylted
Nevermind I can't.  Pie erased the scum chat

WTF?
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Oromagi makes a very valid point with his #185, but I also find it extremely out of his meta to claim something that technically isn't SOP so early. Not to mention the character doesn't really match that role at all, but to be fair to oromagi. Even mine have some context to it
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This DP started while I was on an 8 hour shift yesterday... Holy crap I have a lot to read through
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@oromagi
Only if you don't count that SJW who thinks computers are racist as one of my alts. Kinda pisses me off he was wrongfully banned because David is incompetent 
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Nevermind I can't.  Pie erased the scum chat

WTF?
from last game, got it.

I thought the game was over for a second there.

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@Vader
Once again. Lynching Oro is practically useless. The only scenario where he does that is if he’s a vote thief or something like that.

Let’s move on to Chris and his character.
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I know nothing about this theme at all, just a forewarning
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@oromagi
dude what is your justification. Why do I have to keep asking? Your role and character are out. Not sure why you are holding back
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@Greyparrot
My name is James McSweeney.

I am a jail keeper. 

HI!
Once again I'm going to say it: GP needs to ditch insta-claiming as his meta and we need to be willing to let him change it and not insta-lynch him for it. This hurts TOWN almost every time. 
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@Wylted
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what is your justification? I have a theory on theme and want to test it with your justification.  If I am right I can prove poly is scum.
POST#56

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Btw any SoPs?

What does "SoP" refer to?
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@ILikePie5
Sadly, but that also could be what oromagi wants though. I'm really just hung up on the Innocent Child claim in a game like this where villains are the primary theme and no one is innocent. I still have some sus on him but rushing to lynch him seems pointless unless his behavior shifts
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I plan on jailing pie.

why would town say this?
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@oromagi
thanks, my theory was wrong unless you turn out to be scum
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@MisterChris
It's Standard Policy

Essentially it's a claim that's scummy such as Paranoid Gun Owner or Miller
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@MisterChris
What does "SoP" refer to?
Standard operating procedure. Like claiming Miller and PGO
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I'm starting to think Grey is more scummy reading some of his posts and quotes. 

I'm gonna go on a DoorDash run and make some money for hopefully more than an hour
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what is your justification 
Post #56, bro  what's yours?
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@Vader
are you protesting Sunday or are you just going to take it in the ass with their new policies?
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@Vader
Sadly, but that also could be what oromagi wants though. I'm really just hung up on the Innocent Child claim in a game like this where villains are the primary theme and no one is innocent. I still have some sus on him but rushing to lynch him seems pointless unless his behavior shifts
How do you know this?
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@Vader
Alright, you caught me.
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@oromagi
the justification of mine refers to a fight. I noticed everyone's did but polys. However you are saying that your justification does not involve a fight your person is in, so my theory was wrong.