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@Buddamoose
That's the one. I read through every mafia debate and strategy thread on multiple sites before playing my first game.
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It was 2 cylces before me FML.
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@Wylted
FT's mafia related debate wasn't even about the noob rule. He tied with Mestari(Lucky_Liciano).
That it was Lucky(Mestari) that tied with FT is actually kinda epic. Mestari actually did do that at least a couple times if I recall 😂.
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@Aporia
I honestly did not think voting Budda would devolve into 100+ posts debating the validity of pressuring experienced players over newbs.
Oh man, then you aren't remembering me accurately 😂
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@Greyparrot
It's far more likely wylted genuinely did not know how scum pm works for 2 reasons.1) this is wylted's 1st mafia game on DART2) It came toward the middle of a bloviating dayphase where a contrived statement would have a minimal effect compared to early in the day where everyone would have immediately noticed it.
Eh, no, but you don't realize that he already knows there are known and easy alternatives. Wylted was originally scum in beginners 1.1. I supplied him the chatzy link. He ultimately never played. Maybe he never read the messages upon returning from his absence, but idk, Wylted has never struck me as a "leave messages unread" kinda person. Although it's possible he did.
The reasoning you gave was actually pretty solid fmpov, but it's hingent upon him not knowing there are alternatives to it. He prolly does and likely would have fmpov even independent of the aforementioned messages.
I remember the chatzy link now. Sorry, I had to leave because I was in a downward spiral. I really wanted to die was low energy and considered myself evil at the time. I can't tell if I just get burnt out from being a high energy workaholic who over does it and burns out about once a year, or if I have bipolar 2 and cycle between long like 6-9 month phases of hypomania and 3-9 months of extreme depression. I know my therapist thinks I have bipolar, but what the fuck does she know.
The depression gets worse each time though, not neccesarily in length but in depth.
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@Wylted
Im sorry you are struggling with that burden. I don't hold it against you that you had to dip, never did.
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I hope you dont take it personally that I cant assume you are being truthful about not remembering. And so can't fmpov operate as if the post wasn't potentially contrived.
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@warren42
Actually I didn't read the full post. All I read was the part that I highlightedVaarka’s reaction was mildly concerning because of the fact he only called out the fake enthusiasm part, when he should know that the entire thing was fabricated.
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@Vader
Scum team is Aporia and Budda confirmed. I honestly am so fucking lost and their logic is insane
If you were caught up when you made this post, then hopefully you read Budda's post on RVS (even though that's not technically *why* Aporia voted Budda). Aporia voted Budda to get a reaction, not so much to get a claim. At least, that's how I've been reading it.
I'm lost too but that's b/c I skip half their posts b/c they're long and forget parts of the game.
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@Vaarka
I did
My ability to keep my attention on and remember parts of the game has slowly been getting worse this past year and a half. It's not an excuse, it's just something I kinda realized just now.
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@Vader
You read Budda's post?
Anyway, are things different now? I'm not caught up yet, but has anything changed.
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@Vaarka
I don't agree with Budda logic with me agreeing with Aporia. I explained why as well
Lmao I just got to the post where Supa quotes Aporia asking for a claim.
So the part where I said :v: was wrong
Aporia voted Budda to get a reaction, not so much to get a claim. At least, that's how I've been reading it.
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@Vader
What was his logic?I don't agree with Budda logic with me agreeing with Aporia. I explained why as well
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@Vaarka
He said I can't scum read Aporia and disagree about what he said, then come out and agree with his logic. He made a post in Part 7 where he explains his logic. Ill link it
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@Vader
idk light bussing is pretty normal, though I definitely wouldn't expect it when new players are involved (unless one is going to be lynched anyway)I think your analysis is true and very thought out. However in mafia, bussing is where you try pointing the blame or purposely disagreeing or VTLing each other to try to cause people to think y'all are on different teams when both are scum. It is a rarity, but Budda is experienced enough and Aporia has some experience to execute it perfectly fooling noob players to vote for one or the other causing no suspicion to the other maf
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@Vaarka
Aporia is experienced from what I heard
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@Vader
... is that allowed?it is all caps because i wouldn't know how to spell the name, so i copy and pasted how bsh spelled it
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@Vaarka
Yea it is. I mean spelling a name won't effect the game too much.
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@Vader
But I meant copy pasting it. Granted it happened four pages ago so either Bsh doesn't know about it or he's fine with it.
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@Vaarka
I mean it is just a character name. It doesn't give too much away
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@Buddamoose
So, to get this straight-You agree with Aporia its beneficial to pressure experienced players during RVS, but think his logic for voting me is stupid, despite his reasoning being what you agreed with?-its also scummy of other players to point out things that appear sus, like idk, saying you thought Aporias vote was to lynch and not get a claim, despite posting
How I see it up to this point is that Supa's got a problem with the pressure being for a claim.
Where is buddas claim?Which look an awful lot like you knew he wanted my claim.-And you it to be held you are still assuming RVS(opening) votes are for lynches, despite it being made clear in previous games thats not the case that you have been a part of where you have made such observations previously, to even hold your posts are genuine and not contrived.And because those things aren't being believed, and I think they look suspect, this means I'm scum?Nice
Everything between my last point and here make no sense to me. I have no idea what you're trying to say.
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@Vader
yeah ik but afaik c/ping anything from your PM is not allowed.I mean it is just a character name. It doesn't give too much away
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@Vader
He was an active player in the past on DDO but has been inactive for a year or twoAporia is experienced from what I heard
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@Buddamoose
UnvoteA quick wiki of Lwxanna shows she was only in a handful of episodes. My character is herself specific to season 7 and Lwxanna appeared in season 7, so I'm liable to think she could be a potential character in the game.Does anybody else's role contain bsh1's personal disposition toward their character or others? It could just be specific to my character because they're one of a line of hosts for a symbiote and its basically along the lines of, "I didn't like you as much as the previous (actress), im bitter she was replaced and it sucked how she left so heres a crappy role 😂.The word "oodles" was used unironically 😂, oodles.
If you placed your vote for behavioral reasons, why would his character claim change your view. The link you have between the characters is that "oh they both appeared in season 7", and you're removing your vote purely on that. You seemed pretty set on Supa being scum, but now that you have his character claim you're suddenly okay with him.
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@Vader
He said I can't scum read Aporia and disagree about what he said, then come out and agree with his logic. He made a post in Part 7 where he explains his logic. Ill link it
That's not even what I said. Lord post 178#
Actually, the more that I think about it, the more I think Supa is selling poor town play way too hard. If we're to hold his defense as truthful and him not sus by consequence, requires that he saw ur vote for me, but somehow thought you were voting me for what i had claimed, when your post was the very first post of the game(excluding the OP).Beyond that, to also have us hold, that hes played in a few games already, and is still percieving RVS votes as being for death by default, when not a damn RVS vote in any game ive played with him has been for a lynch, its always been for a claim. And this same issue has come up as well.I'm just saying, "I thought you were voting him because of his claim", when it was the first post of the game? That's just not believable fmpov.
You are pinpointing me saying it doesn't make sense to me that you would agree with Aporia's reasoning, them turn around and say it was shitty logic.
You are selling poor play way too hard. "I thought you were voting budda because of something he claimed"
On the first post of the game.
"Aporias logic is crap being for a lynch"
Which would require you to think the first vote of a game was to lynch, and would require us to believe, beyond that, that after how many games you are still assuming votes during RVS are to lynch. When not a single RVS vote during the games you've played recently has been for a lynch, you having made these same assumption as well as others during these games,
To hold you as truthful and towntdoesn't just require we hold you havent absorbed that votes during the random voting stage are prerty much never for lynches. But also that you were seriously contemplating Aporia was voting me for something I had claimed, when Aporia vote on me was the first vote of the game. So we have to hold that you could legitimately think there exists posts before post #1(excluding OP as it's not a player post.)
No, I find it likelier you knew he wanted my claim, and when you got called out on lazy posting played the, "no guys, I'm not scum, I'm just bad" card. But you sold the play way too hard, cause it requires we believe you misunderstood multiple things that are well beyond the line of a reasonable misunderstanding.